What big oil is hiding from you with Cindy Taff and Stephanie Honchell Smith

TED Tech24mMay 15, 2026

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This episode of TED Tech dives into the hidden history of climate denial and the untapped potential of geothermal energy, revealing how the fossil fuel industry deliberately obscured climate science for decades while simultaneously building the very infrastructure that could now power a clean energy revolution. Host Sherelle Dorsey frames the narrative around two powerful stories: Cindy Taft, a former Shell executive who left the oil industry to found Sage Geosystems and develop next-generation geothermal technology, and historian Stephanie Honchell Smith, who details the oil industry’s systematic campaign to sow doubt about climate change starting in the 1970s. The episode exposes how oil companies used PR tactics borrowed from the tobacco industry, funded think tanks, attacked scientists, and manipulated public discourse to delay climate action—despite internal knowledge of the dangers of fossil fuels. Yet, amid this legacy of deception, there is hope: Taft’s work proves that the drilling expertise, engineering talent, and global infrastructure built by the oil industry can be repurposed to harness the Earth’s deep heat, offering a reliable, 24/7 clean energy source. The episode closes with a call to action: we have the tools to solve the climate crisis, but only if we act with urgency and demand accountability.

Key Takeaways
1

The oil industry knew about climate change as early as the 1970s but spent decades funding disinformation campaigns to delay action.

2

Geothermal energy, powered by the same drilling technologies used in oil and gas, can provide reliable, clean, baseload power 24/7.

3

Fracking techniques used in oil extraction can be adapted for geothermal energy with lower environmental risk and greater precision.

4

The same engineers, drillers, and service companies currently drilling for oil can be redirected to drill for heat, accelerating the energy transition.

5

The climate crisis isn't just a scientific or political issue—it's a moral one, rooted in corporate deception and delayed responsibility.

Chapters
0:00
3 min

The Hidden Cost of Oil

The episode opens with a critique of how fossil fuel costs are hidden from consumers, both monetarily and environmentally. The host introduces the dual narrative: the climate crisis and the untapped potential of geothermal energy.

2:30
5 min

Cindy Taft: From Oil Executive to Geothermal Pioneer

Energy is everywhere beneath our feet. We just need to tap into it.

Highlight
7:30
8 min

The Science and Potential of Geothermal Energy

We're going to take the technologies that the oil and gas have developed over the last 100 years... and we're going to start drilling for heat instead of hydrocarbons.

Highlight
15:00
8 min

The Oil Industry's Climate Deception

They utilised the same PR firms that had previously helped the tobacco industry mislead the public about the harms of smoking.

Highlight
23:20
2 min

The Inflection Point: From Denial to Action

The episode concludes with a call to action: the tools for climate solutions already exist. The oil industry built them. Now, society must demand they be used to save the planet.

High-Impact Quotes
We're going to take the technologies that the oil and gas have developed over the last 100 years... and we're going to start drilling for heat instead of hydrocarbons.
Cindy Taft7:27
Viral: 90.0
They utilised the same PR firms that had previously helped the tobacco industry mislead the public about the harms of smoking.
Stephanie Honchell Smith20:33
Viral: 88.0
The oil industry built the tools that could help save us from itself. The question is whether we'll move fast enough to use them.
Sherelle Dorsey26:15
Viral: 87.0
Speakers

Host

Sherelle Dorsey

Guests

Cindy TaftStephanie Honchell Smith
Topics Discussed
geothermal energy95%oil industry deception90%climate change denial88%energy transition85%fracking technology75%renewable energy infrastructure70%corporate responsibility65%climate activism60%
People & Brands

Cindy Taft

person

12xPositive

Shell Oil

organization

6xNeutral

Sage Geosystems

organization

5xPositive

Global Climate Coalition

organization

4xNegative

Wise

organization

4xPositive

ExxonMobil

organization

3xNegative

TED Tech

media

3xPositive

TED Health

media

3xPositive

Kyoto Protocol

other

2xNeutral

Tobacco industry

other

2xNegative

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