The Magic of the Broken: David J (Bauhaus / Love and Rockets)

Team Human with Douglas Rushkoff1h 24mApril 29, 2026

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In this deeply reflective episode of Team Human, Douglas Rushkoff sits down with David J, legendary bassist of Bauhaus and Love and Rockets, to explore the profound intersection of art, magic, grief, and resilience. The conversation unfolds as a tapestry of personal stories, spiritual encounters, and creative philosophy, centered around David J's new poetry collection, *Rhapsody, Threnody and Prayer*. Through intimate recollections of collaborations with icons like Genesis P-Orridge, Timothy Leary, and William Burroughs, David J reveals how his work has long been a ritual of connection—channeling the dead, embracing the broken, and finding beauty in darkness. The episode delves into the transformative power of vulnerability, the sacredness of the mundane, and the idea that true strength lies not in control, but in gentleness and openness. From the haunting story of a voodoo doll that seemingly orchestrated a fire at Rick Rubin’s house to the quiet magic of a shared glance during a rehearsal, the narrative underscores a worldview where the broken are not discarded but revered as vessels of light. Ultimately, the episode becomes a meditation on how art and compassion can be acts of resistance in a collapsing world.

Key Takeaways
1

Embrace the broken—beauty and healing emerge from imperfection and loss.

2

Grief and darkness are not enemies of art; they are its most fertile ground.

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True strength is gentle, open-hearted, and rooted in compassion, not control.

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The unexpected and the 'wrong' can be gifts—embrace the chaos as a portal to creativity.

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Art and ritual are forms of activism: they create connection, invite presence, and sustain hope.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Introducing Groucho: Finding Real Connections

Douglas Rushkoff introduces Groucho, a real-life dinner club platform built by artists to foster authentic, hand-curated friendships and creative collaborations, offering 50% off for Team Human listeners.

1:59
3 min

The Spirit of the Tribute: Honoring Genesis P-Orridge

He heard me hear you and that I went along with it. And then, yeah, you responded.

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5:00
5 min

Dreams, Death, and the Bardo: Encountering the Dead

I had an experience where, relating to William Burroughs, another mutual friend, and I'd moved to America. This was in 97. And all my stuff was in this garage. It was like being used as a storage unit.

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10:00
5 min

The Triptych of the Soul: Rhapsody, Threnody, Prayer

Rhapsody is the willingness to say, I'm not going to play the song. We're going to let this thing come through our body, right?

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15:00
5 min

The Magic of the Unplanned: When Things Go Wrong

I said, okay, I'm going to base everything around that. And then it stopped. And then we had this captured, you know, this rhythm, this very hard kind of industrial clunking rhythm.

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High-Impact Quotes
There's a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in.
Leonard Cohen34:48
Viral: 96.0
In that moment I thought, I came to make you love yourself.
David J76:50
Viral: 95.0
He heard me hear you and that I went along with it. And then, yeah, you responded.
Douglas Rushkoff5:33
Viral: 92.0
Speakers

Host

Douglas Rushkoff

Guest

David J
Topics Discussed
Art as Ritual92%Grief and Mourning90%Magic and the Occult88%The Beauty of Brokenness87%Compassion and Kindness85%Creative Process83%Masculinity and Vulnerability80%Nostalgia and the Future78%
People & Brands

David J

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Douglas Rushkoff

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Genesis P-Orridge

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Bauhaus

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Love and Rockets

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Psychic TV

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Timothy Leary

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William Burroughs

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Rick Rubin

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Groucho

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