They Gave Up On My Child: When The School System Refuses To Support Autism with Vickie Chartrand

Talk To Danielle39mApril 9, 2026

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In this powerful episode of *Talk to Danielle*, host Danielle C. Baker sits down with Vickie Chartrand, a mother of a child on the autism spectrum, to confront the systemic failures within the education system. Vickie shares her harrowing journey of advocating for her son—whose Individualized Education Plan (IEP) spans 27 pages—only to face repeated dismissal, lack of implementation, and even punishment for behaviors stemming from unmet needs. She recounts how essential supports like sensory tools and executive function strategies are routinely ignored or removed, likening it to taking a wheelchair from a child who cannot walk. The conversation reveals the emotional toll on families, the trauma of being told her son must 'survive' in a grade seven class despite functioning at a grade three level, and the alarming lack of empathy from school boards that claim to support inclusion while delivering exclusionary practices. Danielle and Vickie emphasize that these failures harm not just autistic students but the entire classroom, as toxic environments erode trust and safety for all. The episode calls for a radical reimagining of education: classrooms that are calm, flexible, and built around real-world learning through technology, play, and therapy-informed strategies. Vickie’s vision includes safe, specialized learning environments where children can thrive at their own pace, supported by professionals who are welcomed into schools—not rejected. Both hosts stress that parents must remain loud, persistent, and unapologetic in their advocacy, as their voices are often the only ones standing up for children who cannot speak for themselves. The conversation ends with a rallying cry for systemic change, urging educators, policymakers, and communities to listen, act, and build a future where every child—especially neurodivergent ones—can learn safely and with dignity.

Key Takeaways
1

Schools often ignore or fail to implement IEPs despite detailed, research-backed plans that could support both students and teachers.

2

Removing sensory tools or support systems as punishment is equivalent to denying a child basic access to mobility and safety.

3

Neurodivergent students are frequently placed in environments that are developmentally and cognitively mismatched, leading to trauma and failure.

4

Teachers and schools are under immense pressure but are rarely given the support or training to meet diverse student needs.

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Inclusion should not mean survival of the fittest—it must mean intentional, safe, and adaptive learning environments for all.

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Chapters
0:00
5 min

Introduction: The Reality of Autism Advocacy

We're not just here to shame people or blame people. It's there's something that's not happening in the school that the parent has no control over.

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5:00
7 min

The IEP Paradox: Why Support Is Ignored

Every year it's like you're starting all over again for the simple, simple things that he just needs to have in the classroom that doesn't go out of anybody's way.

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12:00
8 min

The Cost of Unmet Needs: When Tools Are Removed

To say, well, this is bothering me. It's taking a lot of room in the class and it doesn't match the decor. So we're just going to take that away.

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20:00
10 min

High School Transition: The 'Survival of the Fittest' Mindset

He's going to die the first like two to three days of school. And I'm like, that does not help. like my anxiety, like you know they need a special like class just for them.

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30:00
10 min

Reimagining Education: A Vision for Safe, Adaptive Classrooms

Vickie and Danielle envision a future where schools are calm, flexible, and built around real-life learning—using technology, play, sensory tools, and therapy-informed strategies. They argue this would benefit all students, not just neurodivergent ones.

High-Impact Quotes
He's going to die the first like two to three days of school. And I'm like, that does not help. like my anxiety, like you know they need a special like class just for them.
Vickie Chartrand19:45
Viral: 95.0
To say, well, this is bothering me. It's taking a lot of room in the class and it doesn't match the decor. So we're just going to take that away.
Vickie Chartrand9:14
Viral: 92.0
There's always a way and I'm determined to find it so stopping and quitting is not an option.
Vickie Chartrand34:49
Viral: 90.0
Speakers

Host

Danielle C. Baker

Guest

Vickie Chartrand
Topics Discussed
Autism and School System Failures95%Parent Advocacy and Empowerment92%Individualized Education Plans (IEPs)90%Inclusion vs. Exclusion in Education88%High School Transition Challenges87%Sensory and Executive Function Support85%Therapy-Informed Classrooms80%Teacher and School System Burnout75%
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Danielle C. Baker

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Vickie Chartrand

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Individualized Education Plan

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Executive Function

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5xNeutral

Sensory Tools

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4xPositive

School Board of Education

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4xNegative

Talk to Danielle

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3xPositive

Peanut

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2xPositive

Montessori

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Chachikuti

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