919: Why Smart Developers Are Betting on Batteries | Emilie Flanagan
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In this episode of Suncast, host Nico Johnson sits down with Emily Flanagan, CEO and founder of Carson Power, to explore her journey from a globally mobile upbringing to becoming a leading figure in clean energy project development. Flanagan shares how her early experiences—growing up in Southeast Asia, studying in France, working in a family office, and playing competitive rugby—shaped her adaptability, leadership, and resilience. She recounts her pivot from consulting to development, her formative years at Borrego, and the lessons in disciplined execution and process that she carried into founding Carson Power. A key theme is her strategic shift toward battery storage, driven by macro trends, policy stability, and the urgent need for energy resilience. Flanagan emphasizes the importance of community engagement, de-risking development through front-end diligence, and the underappreciated role of distributed energy in meeting America’s fast-growing electricity demand. She also addresses misconceptions about community solar, highlighting how projects often support, rather than threaten, farmland and local economies. Her leadership philosophy centers on agility, transparency, and empowering teams through frameworks like OKRs and internal ownership. The episode underscores a critical moment in the energy transition: the rise of batteries not just as add-ons, but as core infrastructure for a resilient, affordable, and decentralized grid. Flanagan’s story illustrates how personal experience, strategic foresight, and operational rigor can converge to build a platform that’s both commercially viable and socially responsible. Her journey—from losing her first company to rebuilding with a sharper focus—serves as a masterclass in entrepreneurial resilience. Key takeaways include the value of front-end diligence in development, the power of community trust, the strategic advantage of distributed energy, and the importance of clear, unified messaging to counter political polarization in energy policy.
Front-end diligence on interconnection and permitting risks is critical to avoid costly project failures.
Battery storage is no longer a peripheral add-on but a core component of resilient, affordable energy infrastructure.
Distributed energy projects (5MW AC and under) can be deployed faster and at scale, making them ideal for meeting immediate energy demand.
Community trust is built through boots-on-the-ground engagement, not just technical presentations.
Leadership at scale requires internal ownership, process discipline, and frameworks like OKRs to maintain momentum.
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The Quiet Giant: Energy's Invisible Power
Nico Johnson opens the episode by reflecting on energy’s subtle yet foundational role in modern life, setting the stage for a deep dive into clean energy development with guest Emily Flanagan.
From Global Childhood to Energy Visionary
Flanagan shares how her upbringing across Southeast Asia, France, and the U.S. shaped her cultural fluency, language skills, and adaptability—key traits for navigating complex global energy markets.
The Family Office Lesson: Capital as a Force for Vision
Flanagan recounts her transformative experience at a family office in Monaco, where she witnessed the power of entrepreneurial capital to deploy wealth at scale for meaningful projects—contrasting it with institutional capital’s constraints.
Rugby, Resilience, and the Chameleon Leader
Flanagan draws parallels between rugby’s team-based strategy and her leadership style, emphasizing collective strength, quick decision-making, and the mental toughness forged through years of competitive play.
The Pivot: From Consulting to Development
Flanagan details her early entrepreneurial missteps with OB Energy, the pivotal mentorship from developer Jason Jones, and how that led to forming OB Partners and entering the world of real project development.
“We have a duty to everybody in the country to create a resilient energy system. The lack of information and understanding... is something that I would like to see developers coming together on.”
“The biggest gap that I saw was Borrego was really sophisticated at understanding the notion of return on invested capital. That kind of discipline at the entire process cycle of development from origination all the way to NTP didn't really exist in other developers.”
“We can get projects on the ground and built within a year. We can't do that with any kind of utility-scale, even natural gas, nuclear, anything that right now the new administration is looking at.”
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Emily Flanagan
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Carson Power
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Borrego
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Nico Johnson
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New York State Energy Research and Development Authority
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Rugby
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Jason Jones
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CPS Americas
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NextPower
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Mike Hall
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