You’re Wrong About Cleetus | Stacking Pennies

Stacking Pennies with Corey LaJoie43mApril 6, 2026

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In this episode of Stacking Pennies, Corey LaJoie and Ryan Flores reflect on a packed Easter weekend at Rockingham Speedway, celebrating the return of short-track racing and discussing the nuanced realities of motorsports beyond the Cup Series. They highlight the underrated skill of Cletus McFarland, defending him from online criticism and emphasizing his adaptability across various racing disciplines. The hosts also delve into the importance of perspective, urging fans and drivers alike to step back from the 'Sunday-only' mindset and appreciate the depth and diversity of American racing—from O'Reilly, ARCA, and modifieds to the grassroots efforts of small teams. The conversation shifts to pit crew rankings, with JGR's 20 team dominating, while Spire and Penske face growing pains. The hosts then explore personal growth, success defined as alignment with one's values, and the challenges of balancing racing with family and business. They close with a nostalgic look at iconic motorsports moments and a teaser for Bristol, where they anticipate chaos, competition, and the return of asphalt racing.

Key Takeaways
1

Cletus McFarland is a highly skilled, versatile driver whose talent is often underestimated by casual critics.

2

Success in racing—and life—is about aligning your actions with your values, not just chasing wins.

3

The Cup Series' 'Sunday-only' mentality blinds drivers to the rich tapestry of racing across all levels.

4

Consistency over flashiness—like the 9 team’s 53% top-10 finish rate—can be more valuable than occasional wins.

5

Pit crew performance is critical, but context (like down-and-distance) matters more than raw stop times.

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Chapters
0:00
10 min

Easter Weekend at Rockingham: A Celebration of Short-Track Racing

Corey and Ryan kick off the episode with reflections on a vibrant Easter weekend at Rockingham Speedway, celebrating the return of short-track racing and the energy of fans, teams, and drivers. They highlight Raja’s strong top-10 finish and Corey Day’s potential, while also discussing the broader ecosystem of American motorsports beyond the Cup Series.

10:00
10 min

Defending Cletus McFarland: Skill Over Social Media Snark

Anybody that thinks it's easy are the ones that are commenting certain things on certain people's accounts, mine included.

Highlight
20:00
10 min

The Pit Crew Rankings: JGR’s Dominance and the 9 Team’s Consistency

The duo breaks down pit crew performance, spotlighting JGR’s 20 team as the current benchmark in speed and consistency. They contrast this with the 9 team’s steady, veteran-led approach, noting their 53% top-10 finish rate as a staggering achievement. They also address the growing pains at Penske and the importance of context in evaluating pit stops.

30:00
10 min

Stacking Pennies: Success Beyond the Winner’s Circle

The person that you are trying to get as close to the person that you want to be, that's success.

Highlight
40:00
10 min

Bristol: The Last Great Coliseum and the Road Ahead

With Bristol on the horizon, the hosts reminisce about their own experiences at the track—from near-fatal crashes to triumphs. They preview the upcoming races, discuss tire challenges, and express excitement for the return of asphalt racing. They also tease new product developments, including a next-gen carbon fiber seat.

High-Impact Quotes
The person that you are trying to get as close to the person that you want to be, that's success.
Ryan Flores6:29
Viral: 90.0
Anybody that thinks it's easy are the ones that are commenting certain things on certain people's accounts, mine included.
Corey LaJoie9:07
Viral: 85.0
It's Bristol, babe. Anything can happen.
Corey LaJoie39:23
Viral: 80.0
Speakers

Hosts

Corey LaJoieRyan Flores
Topics Discussed
Cletus McFarland's Driving Skill95%Redefining Success in Motorsports90%Personal Growth and Identity88%Pit Crew Performance and Strategy85%Short-Track Racing Culture80%Business and Product Development75%Fan and Community Impact70%Tire Management and Track Conditions65%
People & Brands

Corey LaJoie

person

42xPositive

Ryan Flores

person

38xPositive

Cletus McFarland

person

18xPositive

Rockingham Speedway

place

15xPositive

Bristol Motor Speedway

place

14xPositive

JGR 20

other

12xPositive

Spire Motorsports

other

10xNeutral

Penske Racing

other

8xMixed

Tricon Motorsports

other

6xPositive

Raja

person

5xPositive

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