Money Talks: Psychopathy and Success
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In this episode of Slate Money, host Elizabeth Spires speaks with Dr. Leanne Tenbrink, an associate professor of psychology at the University of British Columbia and author of 'Poisonous People,' about the intersection of dark personality traits—particularly psychopathy—and success in high-stakes environments like hedge fund management. Drawing on her research at UC Berkeley’s Haas School of Business, Tenbrink reveals that hedge fund managers exhibiting psychopathic traits actually underperformed financially, earning about 1% less annually than their peers, with compounding losses over time. Despite the popular myth that psychopaths thrive in competitive business settings, the data suggests the opposite. The conversation explores how traits like manipulation, emotional shallowness, impulsivity, and grandiosity—while sometimes mistaken for leadership qualities like confidence and decisiveness—often lead to toxic workplace cultures, high turnover, and organizational dysfunction. Tenbrink emphasizes that these traits exist on a spectrum and that even moderate levels can have outsized negative impacts, especially when individuals in power are not held accountable. She offers practical strategies for coping with such leaders, including establishing common ground, softening feedback, and setting explicit boundaries. The episode also addresses the dangerous overlap between neurodiversity labels and the justification of harmful behavior, clarifying that while some traits like impulsivity may co-occur with ADHD or autism, the core callousness and manipulation of psychopathy are distinct. Ultimately, the discussion underscores the societal cost of unchecked dark traits—estimated at $5 trillion annually in the U.S. due to crime—and advocates for early intervention, particularly through reward-based behavioral therapy, as a cost-effective solution.
Hedge fund managers with psychopathic traits underperformed by about 1% annually, leading to significant long-term financial losses.
Dark personality traits like psychopathy, narcissism, Machiavellianism, and sadism are often mistaken for leadership strengths but lead to toxic work environments.
People with high levels of dark traits are more likely to be in senior management, contributing to high stress, turnover, and poor team dynamics.
Practical strategies for surviving under a toxic leader include building tiny common ground, softening feedback, and establishing written rules.
Early intervention with reward-based cognitive behavioral therapy can reduce long-term societal costs, with every dollar invested saving $7 in criminal justice expenses.
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Introducing Dr. Leanne Tenbrink and Her Research on Dark Personality Traits
Elizabeth Spires introduces Dr. Leanne Tenbrink, an associate professor of psychology at UBC, and her new book 'Poisonous People,' which explores dark personality traits, their detection, and management in everyday life.
The Hedge Fund Study: Psychopathy and Financial Performance
“Those who had displayed more behaviors that were associated with psychopathic personality traits in particular made less money every year, about 1% or so less money every year. But over 10 years, you know, as that starts to compound, that can really add up.”
Defining Psychopathy and the Dark Tetrad
Tenbrink explains the clinical definition of psychopathy—interpersonal manipulation, emotional shallowness, impulsivity, and antisocial behavior—and how it fits within the broader 'dark tetrad' of narcissism, Machiavellianism, and sadism.
Spotting Dark Traits in 10 Seconds: Behavioral Red Flags
“They will use really angry or hostile language while smiling quite broadly. So you get this kind of mismatch between verbal and nonverbal behavior.”
Why Dark Traits Are Mistaken for Leadership Strength
“We tend to confuse that confidence for competence. And it's not until a little bit later down the road that we start to realize like, oh, they're kind of like all talk and like a lot of bluster and a lot of action.”
“If you take into account just those people with clinical levels of psychopathy, they make up about 20% of the incarcerated population, but they account for about 50% of all serious crime because they tend to commit lots of crimes, not just one.”
“Power kind of broadly speaking, including extreme wealth, I assume can activate kind of who you are. And so if you have some of these latent traits, it would be very unsurprising to me that you're then very unconstrained in terms of displaying those traits.”
“Every dollar that we put into that treatment saves us $7 just in criminal court costs, not to mention all of the improvements in their behavior and the improvements in their relationships with other people that come from that.”
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