291: More Big Buts
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The hosts of Sisters Sidebar, Joyce Vance and Jill Winebanks, tackle a series of high-stakes legal questions with sharp precision, starting with the constitutional hierarchy of Articles 1, 2, and 3—emphasizing that the Founders intentionally placed legislative power first, particularly the 'power of the purse,' which remains constitutionally vested in Congress. They stress that President Trump cannot unilaterally pay TSA agents without congressional appropriation, underscoring a critical check on executive overreach. On judicial immunity, they clarify that while Judge Aileen Cannon is shielded from civil liability for her decision to seal the Jack Smith report, she is not immune from criminal prosecution or bar disciplinary action if evidence of misconduct emerges. The conversation then turns to international law, where they acknowledge that bombing civilian infrastructure would be a war crime under UN and humanitarian law—but point out the U.S. is not a party to the International Criminal Court and can veto any enforcement action, rendering legal accountability nearly impossible. The episode closes with a robust defense of corporate accountability, citing high-profile cases like Sam Bankman-Fried, Bernie Madoff, and Elizabeth Holmes, proving that executives do go to jail for corporate crimes—countering the myth that corporations face no real consequences. The hosts emphasize that the real issue is not the lack of legal tools, but the political will to use them.
Congress holds the 'power of the purse' by constitutional design and cannot be bypassed by executive order, even for essential services like TSA agent pay.
Judges have absolute judicial immunity from civil suits, but can still face criminal prosecution or bar discipline if evidence of misconduct like bribery emerges.
The U.S. is not a member of the International Criminal Court and can veto UN actions against it, making international law enforcement of war crimes against the U.S. effectively impossible.
Corporate executives like Sam Bankman-Fried, Elizabeth Holmes, and Bernie Madoff have been imprisoned—proving that individuals, not just companies, face criminal liability.
The press can legally intervene in court cases when parties are aligned in secrecy, as seen in the Knight School of Journalism’s petition to unseal the Jack Smith report.
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Welcome & Upcoming Live Shows
The hosts introduce the episode and announce upcoming live shows in Denver and Atlanta, encouraging listeners to purchase tickets via politicon.com/slash-tour.
Constitutional Order & the Power of the Purse
“He can only spend money that has been appropriated by the Congress. And so if they're going to get paid... Congress is going to have to do the right thing and pass a rule that says TSA agents can get paid.”
Judicial Immunity & Aileen Cannon's Ruling
“Judicial immunity does not protect judges from criminal prosecution or professional disciplinary actions. So if evidence of criminal conduct emerged, I have not seen any yet here.”
International Law & the U.S. Non-Participation
“We are a permanent part of the Security Council and we can veto any action that's taken against us. And so you say, well, but there is the International Criminal Court. Well, there is, but we don't belong to that.”
Epstein Files & Document Integrity
Joyce explains that the FBI maintains the primary investigative file on Epstein, with integrity protected by chain-of-custody and digital numbering, and that multiple agencies may hold copies.
“We are a permanent part of the Security Council and we can veto any action that's taken against us. And so you say, well, but there is the International Criminal Court. Well, there is, but we don't belong to that.”
“Judicial immunity does not protect judges from criminal prosecution or professional disciplinary actions. So if evidence of criminal conduct emerged, I have not seen any yet here.”
“He can only spend money that has been appropriated by the Congress. And so if they're going to get paid... Congress is going to have to do the right thing and pass a rule that says TSA agents can get paid.”
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Jill Winebanks
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Joyce Vance
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Donald Trump
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Aileen Cannon
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FBI
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Jeffrey Epstein
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11th Circuit
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International Criminal Court
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UN Security Council
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Knight School of Journalism
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