The Warm Up: 'My Twitter followers tripled'

Scrum V46mMay 7, 2026

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Ruby Tui, Olympic gold medalist and world champion in both sevens and fifteens rugby, joins Scrum 5 for a high-energy discussion that pivots from her viral BBC interview—where her Twitter followers tripled—to the seismic shifts in women’s rugby, including the upcoming trial of a smaller 4.5-sized ball. Tui reflects on how the Olympic sevens program catalyzed professional women’s rugby in New Zealand, turning a campaign for equity into a reality. She shares the emotional weight of playing in front of family at Eden Park during the World Cup final, where New Zealand beat England in a historic, momentum-shifting victory. The episode also unpacks the retirement of Welsh rugby legends like Lee Halfpenny, the tactical evolution of the Welsh women’s team, and the controversial decision to reduce the women’s rugby ball size—sparking debate over tradition, fairness, and the future of the game. Amid it all, the arrival of Nadine Griffiths as World Rugby’s new director of women’s rugby is hailed as a landmark moment for inclusion and legacy.

Key Takeaways
1

Ruby Tui's viral BBC interview after the Tokyo Olympics tripled her Twitter followers—she didn’t even know which interview it was.

2

The women’s sevens program in New Zealand was the catalyst that forced professional pay and structure for women’s rugby, leading to pro 15s teams.

3

New Zealand’s 2021 World Cup final win over England was driven by tactical homework, not luck—specifically targeting England’s blind-side halfback.

4

The proposed 4.5-sized rugby ball for women’s games is controversial: some say it improves skill, others fear it undermines progress and creates administrative burden.

5

Nadine Griffiths’ appointment as World Rugby’s director of women’s rugby is celebrated as a historic step for inclusion, with her legacy already visible in Cardiff’s heritage wall.

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Chapters
0:00
5 min

Welcome to Scrum 5: Ruby Tui’s Debut

Ruby Tui is welcomed to the show with enthusiasm, joking about the podcast’s name confusion (Scrum 5 vs. Scrum V). She shares her excitement about being in Wales and her recent return from Sri Lanka, setting a light-hearted tone for the episode.

5:00
5 min

Lee Halfpenny’s Legacy and Retirement

The hosts reflect on Lee Halfpenny’s 101-cap career, celebrating his humility, professionalism, and impact on Welsh rugby. The conversation underscores the end of a golden generation, with multiple legends retiring.

10:00
5 min

Ruby Tui’s Viral Interview and Social Media Surge

I couldn't even pick what interview it was. And I was talking to Scares one time, like, bro, what? what happened to that interview over in England, bro?

Highlight
15:00
5 min

The Power of Sevens in Women’s Rugby

We were fighting to change a generation of women back home... and then sure enough through the sevens program you know we went pro.

Highlight
20:00
5 min

The 2021 World Cup Final: A Game of Destiny

I just remember thinking we're going to win the World Cup. We're going to win the World Cup. That never happens. Someone's watching us, this is a movie, we're going to win that World Cup.

Highlight
High-Impact Quotes
game we're fighting to change a generation of women back home and then sure enough through the sevens program you know we went pro
Ruby Tui13:44
Viral: 90.0
I just remember thinking we're going to win the World Cup. We're going to win the World Cup. That never happens. Someone's watching us, this is a movie, we're going to win that World Cup.
Ruby Tui17:23
Viral: 88.0
I couldn't even pick what interview it was. And I was talking to Scares one time, like, bro, what? what happened to that interview over in England, bro?
Ruby Tui8:57
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Hosts

Jonathan DavisPhilippa Tuttian

Guest

Ruby Tui
Topics Discussed
women's rugby95%sevens rugby90%professionalism in women's sports85%ball size debate80%women's sports development80%rugby ball size75%rugby strategy75%international rugby70%
People & Brands

Ruby Tui

person

25xPositive

Jonathan Davis

person

18xNeutral

Philippa Tuttian

person

15xNeutral

Lee Halfpenny

person

12xPositive

Six Nations

other

12xNeutral

Nadine Griffiths

person

8xPositive

World Cup

other

8xPositive

URC

other

5xNeutral

Zoe Harrison

person

5xNegative

Tokyo Olympics

other

5xPositive

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