How do you describe nature? Two poets help us
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In this Earth Day special, Science Friday explores how poets capture the ineffable beauty and profound emotional weight of nature through language. Host Flora Lichtman invites listeners to share their favorite natural places, from the woods near Traverse City to a desert canyon in Zion, and then brings on two acclaimed poets—Jane Hirshfield and Kimberly Blazer—to discuss the art of translating sensory experiences into poetry. They emphasize that poetry begins with deep attention, embraces mystery, and invites readers into the space between what can be known and what cannot. Both poets highlight the importance of restraint, metaphor, and the 'gesture' of the unsaid, using examples like a geological crack in the earth as a symbol of both revelation and personal fracture. The conversation deepens as they reflect on how poetry, like science, is an act of inquiry—but while science seeks answers, poetry embraces unanswerable questions, offering a 'momentary stay against confusion.' A poignant call from a Pennsylvania listener, mourning the impending loss of her ancestral land to mining, underscores poetry’s power to hold both beauty and grief. The episode closes with a moving poem by Hirshfield about redwoods reclaiming a logged landscape, symbolizing resilience and the quiet, persistent presence of nature.
Poetry begins with precise perception and deep attention to the natural world.
Good poetry uses restraint and 'gesture' to invite readers into the unsaid and the mysterious.
Nature poems can transform personal experiences into universal reflections on loss, time, and resilience.
The act of writing poetry is an act of love and resistance against despair.
Language can bridge the gap between the tangible and the ineffable, especially in moments of environmental threat.
Listener Stories: Favorite Places on Earth
Listeners share their cherished natural spaces—from Michigan woods to Oklahoma sunsets—highlighting the emotional resonance of these places on Earth Day.
The Poet's Process: Attention, Surprise, and the Ineffable
“Poetry is an act of attention. And so just looking closely and especially at the intricate aspects. And as the one clip that you played mentioned surprise, it's allowing yourself to be surprised again.”
From Experience to Metaphor: The Crack in the Earth
“A crack is a place of opening. It is a place of revelation. It is a place where you see the geological strata of time. And it is also very much a metaphor for brokenness and for the fracturing of our lives.”
The Purpose of Poetry: Inquiry, Mystery, and Love
“The poem is a way to say yes to existence in all of its perplexities and all of its difficulties and all of its joys.”
Poetry as Resistance: Love in the Face of Loss
“Even in the face of not being able to change a loss that is coming, you love where you are. You love the beauty of this world. And that lets a person keep opening their eyes every day, that love.”
“The poem is a way to say yes to existence in all of its perplexities and all of its difficulties and all of its joys.”
“Even in the face of not being able to change a loss that is coming, you love where you are.”
“A crack is a place of opening. It is a place of revelation.”
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