How do clinical trials work, and who can participate?

Science Friday21mMay 21, 2026

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Chris, a Florida resident with autoimmune arthritis who has tried 10 different drugs, was rejected from a clinical trial despite being exactly the patient who might benefit most—those whose previous treatments have failed. This raises a critical ethical and scientific question: why do clinical trials often exclude patients who have exhausted multiple therapies? Dr. Holly Fernandez-Lynch, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania, explains that exclusion criteria are designed to isolate the drug’s effect by minimizing confounding variables—like prior treatments that may have altered disease progression. However, she notes that this approach can create a paradox: the people most in need of new treatments are systematically excluded from trials meant to develop them. The FDA doesn’t require new drugs to outperform existing ones—just to show they work better than nothing. This allows approval based on surrogate endpoints (like plaque reduction in Alzheimer’s) even when clinical benefit isn’t proven, as seen in the controversial approval of Adjuhelm. Meanwhile, oversight of trials comes from both the FDA and Institutional Review Boards (IRBs), whose standards vary widely—especially between academic and commercial IRBs—raising concerns about consistency and transparency. Under the current administration, FDA review timelines have been accelerated through priority vouchers, but this risks compromising thoroughness.

Key Takeaways
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Clinical trials often exclude patients who’ve failed multiple drugs to ensure clean, interpretable data—but this leaves the most desperate patients out of the research.

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FDA approval doesn’t require a new drug to beat existing treatments; it only needs to show benefit over nothing, enabling approval based on surrogate endpoints like plaque reduction.

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The controversial Alzheimer’s drug Adjuhelm was approved based on brain plaque reduction, not patient-reported outcomes, despite failing to show clinical benefit in trials.

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Institutional Review Boards (IRBs) vary widely in rigor—commercial IRBs may prioritize speed and compliance over ethical depth, creating inconsistent oversight.

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Accelerated FDA review programs like the Commissioner's Priority Review Vouchers reduce review time to two months, increasing the risk of missing safety or efficacy issues.

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Chapters
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2 min

The Patient Who Was Rejected

I really wondered what you're supposed to do if you're one of the problem children who doesn't meet the eligibility criteria, because on one level, who needs a clinical trial more than the guy who's quote-unquote failing his 10th drug?

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1:50
4 min

Why Patients Are Excluded

Dr. Holly Fernandez-Lynch explains that exclusion criteria are used to isolate the drug’s effect by minimizing confounding variables, such as prior treatments that may have altered disease progression.

5:30
5 min

The Science vs. Ethics Dilemma

The episode explores the tension between scientific rigor and ethical inclusivity: while clean data requires excluding patients who’ve failed prior drugs, doing so may leave the most vulnerable behind.

10:00
5 min

How FDA Approves Drugs

The FDA requires drugs to be safe and effective for their intended use, but doesn’t mandate they outperform existing treatments. Approval can be based on surrogate endpoints like tumor shrinkage or plaque reduction.

15:00
4 min

The Adjuhelm Controversy

FDA went ahead and approved it anyway, despite a lot of concern about whether or not it worked. So it's really kind of held up as... the tarnished example of the kind of drug that really should not be approved.

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High-Impact Quotes
I really wondered what you're supposed to do if you're one of the problem children who doesn't meet the eligibility criteria, because on one level, who needs a clinical trial more than the guy who's quote -unquote failing his 10th
Flora Lichtman1:08
Viral: 82.0
It's really important to maintain strong kind of separation between those approval decisions and any political interference.
Dr. Holly Fernandez-Lynch21:09
Viral: 80.0
The FDA is running its own analyses of those data, really checking that every T is crossed, every I is dotted so that we can trust the products that are allowed on the market.
Dr. Holly Fernandez-Lynch19:27
Viral: 75.0
Speakers

Host

Flora Lichtman

Guest

Dr. Holly Fernandez-Lynch
Topics Discussed
drug approval process95%FDA oversight90%clinical trial design90%clinical trial ethics88%inclusion criteria85%surrogate endpoints80%political interference in science78%institutional review boards75%
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Chris

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Adjuhelm

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University of Pennsylvania

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Biogen

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Commissioner's Priority Review Vouchers

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Shoshana Buxbaum

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