226 - It Had a Vegetable Quality

Ruminate27mMarch 31, 2026

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The episode opens with a playful snack review of Kettle Chips' spicy kimchi chips, described as having a distinct 'vegetable quality'—a vague, fermented flavor profile dominated by garlic and tomato, with a mild heat that's more nostalgic than thrilling. The hosts then pivot into a deep dive on retro handheld gaming devices, sparked by one host’s quest to find a budget-friendly way to play classic Pokémon games without buying a new Switch. They explore the booming market of Chinese-made handhelds like the MiU Pocket Mini Plus, Anbernic RG35, and the high-end Trim UI Brick, weighing trade-offs between price, build quality, screen clarity, and firmware support. A key revelation: while emulating older systems like Game Boy and SNES is now effortless, the real challenge lies in the fragmented ecosystem of open-source firmware—projects like Onion OS and Mustard are essential but often rely on volunteer labor, leaving less popular devices unsupported. The conversation expands to Android-powered handhelds like the Mangmi Pocket Max and the Thor, which can now emulate PS1 and even modern PC games, though at a steep cost due to rising RAM and SSD prices. The hosts warn that the handheld market is under pressure from global chip shortages and AI-driven component inflation, making once-cheap devices increasingly expensive. Ultimately, they celebrate the hobby’s accessibility and innovation—but caution against over-investing in hardware that may become obsolete or unsupported.

Key Takeaways
1

Spicy kimchi chips have a 'vegetable quality'—a vague, fermented flavor dominated by garlic and tomato, not a specific vegetable.

2

For Game Boy and DS emulation, a £20 handheld can work fine; the real differences come from screen quality and firmware, not raw power.

3

Open-source firmware like Onion OS and Mustard is essential for modern handhelds but relies on volunteer developers, making device longevity uncertain.

4

Android-powered handhelds like the Thor and Mangmi Pocket Max can emulate PS1 and even current-gen PC games, but require expensive hardware and storage.

5

RAM and SSD prices have surged due to AI demand, putting pressure on budget handhelds and forcing price increases across the board.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

The Kimchi Chip Experiment

Rob reviews Kettle Chips' spicy kimchi chips, describing their garlicky, fermented vegetable flavor and questioning whether fermented vegetables translate well to potato chips.

2:00
3 min

The Retro Handheld Quest

Rob shares his journey to find a budget handheld for playing classic Pokémon games, inspired by watching Adam stream Poketopia, and explains why he avoided buying a Switch 2.

5:00
5 min

The Handheld Ecosystem: Options and Trade-Offs

John details the major handheld brands—MiU, Anbernic, Trim UI Brick—comparing build quality, screen clarity, price, and firmware support, emphasizing that for Game Boy games, even cheap models work.

10:00
5 min

The Rise of Android Handhelds

The hosts discuss Android-powered devices like the Mangmi Pocket Max and Thor, which can emulate PS1 and even modern PC games, but at a high cost due to component inflation.

15:00
5 min

The Open-Source Firmware Dilemma

John criticizes manufacturers for relying on unpaid open-source developers to fix firmware, warning that less popular devices may become unsupported over time.

High-Impact Quotes
the Steam machine, which I think a lot of people were holding out hope would be a console competitor, is going to end up being a very expensive machine. I expect over $1
John Voorhees26:36
Viral: 88.0
RAM has doubled and tripled in price, and SSDs have had similar price increases, and it's put a lot of pressure, especially on these more budget -level
John Voorhees25:10
Viral: 85.0
It had a vegetable quality, not just the tomato flavor, but which was kind of like a barbecue almost, but kind of a general random vegetable flavor as well as lots of garlic and a little spicy.
Rob2:41
Viral: 72.0
Speakers

Host

Rob

Guest

John Voorhees
Topics Discussed
retro handheld gaming95%component inflation92%game boy emulation90%open source firmware88%handheld console market87%kimchi chips85%android handhelds82%emulation hardware80%
People & Brands

kimchi

other

8xNeutral

MiU Pocket Mini Plus

product

7xPositive

Onion OS

product

6xPositive

Kettle Chips

brand

6xNeutral

Anbernic

brand

5xNeutral

Trim UI Brick

product

5xPositive

Steam Deck

product

4xNeutral

Mangmi Pocket Max

product

3xNeutral

Thor

product

3xPositive

Brendan

person

3xNeutral

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