Ru and the 15th: Foran's Appointment, Musical Chairs at the Dogs and Best Teams to Never Win a Comp
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The 2025 Penrith Panthers could become rugby league’s most legendary team not to win a premiership—despite seven titles in eight years—if they collapse mid-season and lose a preliminary final, a near-miss that would eclipse even their historic dominance. This hypothetical tragedy, fueled by Rhys Walsh’s missed field goal and a late-season defensive resurgence, would transform a golden era into a mythic tale of almost perfection. The podcast dives deep into the emotional weight of such a collapse, arguing that legacy isn’t built on trophies alone but on narrative, timing, and heartbreak—echoing the forgotten 2001 Parramatta Eels, who went 24-0 and scored 839 points yet are erased from memory due to lack of star power. The 2017 Melbourne Storm, with a +433 points differential and a 34-6 grand final demolition, are hailed as one of the greatest sides ever, while the 2023 Panthers’ three-peat is framed as more psychologically significant than a four-peat because it broke a 50-year drought. The hosts also dissect the 1992 Broncos’ back-to-back win, which derailed the Raiders’ repeat dream and reshaped history, and question whether the current finals system truly rewards sustained excellence—especially for teams like the 2012–2014 Bulldogs and 2000–2005 Roosters, who dominated for years but never lifted the trophy. Kieran Foran’s appointment as Manly’s interim coach is celebrated as a cultural reset, with his 'Manly way' identity seen as the antidote to modern complacency.
The 2025 Penrith Panthers could be remembered as the greatest team never to win a premiership if they lose a prelim final after a mid-season collapse.
Rhys Walsh’s missed field goal in a hypothetical 2025 prelim final would become a defining moment of near-miss greatness.
The 2001 Parramatta Eels went 24-0 with a +433 points differential but are largely forgotten due to lack of star power.
The 2017 Melbourne Storm had a +433 points differential and won their final series by an average of 34 points per game.
Breaking a 50-year drought of three-peats makes the 2023 Panthers’ three-peat more historically significant than a four-peat.
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The Cake Lie: Accountability and Family Dynamics
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Nathan Cleary’s Left-Footed Kick: A Masterstroke or a Mishit?
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Manly’s Coaching Shake-Up: Foz’s Arrival and the Wooden Spoon Fight
“I think he's the right guy for that. It's also from his point of view, given he was playing fucking three months ago, it's a free throw at the stumps.”
Bulldogs’ 5-8 Crisis: Galvin, Critter, and the Coaching Conundrum
“Why pick him in the fucking side if you're not going to play him at seven? I think it's outrageous. I can't make any sense of it.”
“They only lost four games throughout that season. They scored 839 points that year. The next best was 782 by the Knights and Joey.”
“He obviously won three in a row. Cooper did everything he could to win four in a row and he should have got it. It's crazy.”
“won 30 -0. Fucking insane. We don't talk about it enough how good that side was.”
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penrith panthers
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melbourne storm
other
will durkin
person
cooper cronk
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winston
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manly seagulls
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kieran foran
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sydney roosters
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newcastle knights
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nathan cleary
person
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