The Binturong Buddies Bounce Back with Rick Schwartz of Animals, Nature, and You!
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In this heartfelt episode of the Rossifari Podcast, host John Rossi welcomes back Rick Schwartz, former spokesperson for the San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance, who has recently transitioned to an independent podcaster and wildlife educator. Rick shares his journey of being laid off after nearly 25 years at the organization, the emotional and identity challenges that followed, and his courageous leap into creating his own podcast, 'Animals, Nature, and You.' He discusses the steep learning curve of producing audio and video content solo, the personal growth he's experienced, and how he's filling the void left by not working directly with animals by immersing himself in natural spaces. Rick also reflects on the parasocial relationships he's formed with his audience, the importance of authenticity, and the power of storytelling in conservation. He emphasizes that conservation isn't just for scientists or zookeepers—it's for everyone, and he's using his platform to amplify under-the-radar conservation work around the world. The episode closes with Rick's humorous and vivid 'poop story' from a monitor lizard incident and a powerful call to action for listeners to share what they learn and become part of the ripple effect for change.
Your identity isn't tied to your job—your passion and values are what define you.
Starting something new after a major career shift is terrifying but can be a powerful catalyst for growth.
Authenticity is more important than virality—being yourself attracts the right audience.
Conservation is everyone's responsibility, not just experts or zookeepers.
The most impactful conservation work often happens by empowering local communities.
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Rick Schwartz Returns: From Zoo Spokesperson to Independent Educator
“I landed on the fact that my identity really was what I brought to the job. I've always been very passionate about wildlife education. Very passionate about learning more and being curious about wildlife and nature all the time.”
The Layoff and the Leap: Facing Identity and Fear
“I really had to sit with that for a little bit and landed on the fact that due to some interactions we can talk about later if you want outside of work, I landed on the fact that my identity really was what I brought to the job.”
Building a Podcast from Scratch: The Learning Curve
Rick details the steep learning curve of producing his podcast independently—handling everything from audio editing and video production to marketing and networking. He shares the challenges, the moments of doubt, and the surprising joy of mastering new skills.
Missing the Animals: Finding Connection in Nature
Rick reflects on the emotional gap left by no longer working with animals daily. He shares how he’s coping by spending time in natural spaces, rediscovering the biodiversity of San Diego County, and finding solace in the wild spaces around him.
The Reality of Monetization and Financial Risk
Rick discusses the financial reality of his new path—living off savings, not making money from the podcast, and the uncertainty of when or if it will become sustainable. He shares his faith in the process and his belief that the next step will reveal itself.
“Anyone can do conservation. Anyone can participate in taking care of their natural habitat. Anyone can do this work.”
“It's gone from going in and telling people how to take care of the wildlife to going in and taking care of the people so they can take care of the wildlife. And it works.”
“I landed on the fact that my identity really was what I brought to the job.”
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Rick Schwartz
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John Rossi
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San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance
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Animals, Nature, and You
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Binturong
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Iwasa Lions
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Global Conservation Force
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Monitor Lizard
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Zoology Rick
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Zoologyrick.com
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