The Most Versatile Hunting Dog You’ve Probably Never Heard Of! Eps. 490
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In this episode of Ron Spomer Outdoors, host Ron Spomer sits down with legendary hunter and poodle pointer breeder Bob Ferris to explore the history, versatility, and impact of the poodle pointer—a rare and highly capable hunting dog breed. Ferris shares his personal journey from training Chesapeake retrievers and English setters to discovering the poodle pointer, which he describes as a 'meat dog' due to its unmatched ability to retrieve birds across water and terrain. He recounts winning early field trials with his first poodle pointer, Amadeus, and details how the breed’s intelligence, prey drive, and water prowess—especially in challenging conditions like crossing the Snake River—make it unparalleled. Ferris also discusses the North American Versatile Hunting Dog Association (NAVDA), its role in breeding standards, and the creation of the Breeders' Alliance to preserve genetic integrity. The conversation shifts to big game hunting in the Pacific Northwest, where Ferris reflects on the decline of mule deer populations due to increased mountain lion and bear predation, habitat changes, and shifting wildlife management policies. He emphasizes the critical role of hunter-funded conservation and the need for science-based, balanced wildlife management over emotional public opinion. Ultimately, Ferris underscores the deep bond between hunter, dog, and nature, while expressing concern for future generations’ access to hunting opportunities.
Poodle pointers are exceptionally versatile hunting dogs capable of excelling in field, water, and upland bird hunting due to their intelligence, strong prey drive, and unmatched retrieving ability.
The NAVDA testing system evaluates dogs on natural ability, pointing, water work, and temperament, prioritizing cooperation and breed integrity over competition.
Bob Ferris built a world-class poodle pointer lineage through selective breeding, progeny testing, and collaboration with top breeders, producing dogs with average NAVDA scores near 107.
The rise in popularity of poodle pointers has led to a Breeders' Alliance (NAPPA) to maintain high breeding standards and prevent genetic dilution.
Mountain lion and bear predation, combined with habitat changes, are major factors in the decline of mule deer populations in Oregon, challenging traditional hunting access.
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Introducing Bob Ferris: The Man Behind the Poodle Pointer
Ron introduces Bob Ferris, a renowned hunter and pioneer in the poodle pointer world, highlighting his deep roots in Idaho and Oregon hunting culture and his role in elevating the breed’s status.
The Birth of a Poodle Pointer Legend: From Skepticism to Obsession
“I shot it out over the snake river and it lit in the river. And I thought, My God, my setter would just watch it float away. And I heard this splash and off went that little brown dog and it came back with that bird.”
The NAVDA Legacy: Judging for Cooperation, Not Just Competition
“We're judging cooperation. If a dog will go out and retrieve a piece of plastic, they're doing it for you. And he said that's a huge honor of cooperation that the dog is showing to you.”
Breeding Excellence: The Science Behind the Success
“His average was 106 or 107 for 300 and some puppies. Wow. If you told a short hair breeder that, they'd call bullshit. They'd say, come on, I can't be.”
“Mother nature bats last. No matter how much we fix it or break it or screw it up, when we're dead and gone, things are going to come back. The issue is, are we going to have it around to enjoy while we're still here?”
“If it hadn't been for hunters establishing the North American model of conservation and wildlife management, we wouldn't have the deer and the elk and the sheep numbers from our introductions and our close seasons to support the wolf population.”
“His average was 106 or 107 for 300 and some puppies. Wow. If you told a short hair breeder that, they'd call bullshit. They'd say, come on, I can't be.”
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Ron Spomer
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Bodo Winterhelt
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Jack O'Connor
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