412. How Brieane Olson is shaping the future of youth retail at Pacsun
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In this episode of Retail Gets Real, host Jill Dvorak sits down with Breanne Olson, CEO of PacSun, to explore her transformative leadership journey and the brand's evolution into a purpose-driven, youth-centric retail powerhouse. Olson shares her roots in retail, from working in stores at 15 to leading global fashion ventures, and reflects on her shift from product-focused merchandising to a mission-driven leadership style centered on people and purpose. She details PacSun’s reinvention over the past decade—from a surf and skate heritage brand to a multi-pillar platform blending fashion, music, art, and sport—and highlights the strategic shift to over 50% branded product, fueled by deep consumer co-creation. A key theme is the company’s commitment to listening to Gen Z and Gen Alpha through annual youth research and a 14-member youth advisory council, which actively shapes strategy, mission, and innovation. Olson also discusses her upcoming book, *Co-Created*, a blueprint for brands to build alongside consumers, and the importance of balancing short-term operations with long-term vision, especially in the age of AI and agentic commerce. Her insights emphasize curiosity, psychological safety, and the courage to fail fast as essential for future-ready retail leadership. The episode concludes with a rapid-fire Q&A, revealing Olson’s admiration for Ethan Mollick’s *Co-Intelligence*, her love for Italian food, and her desire to experience life as a child today. She names Trader Joe’s as her favorite non-PacSun retailer, praising its joyful, simple model. Overall, the conversation paints a compelling picture of a retail leader who has redefined success not just in sales, but in impact, connection, and cultural relevance. Olson’s story offers a powerful blueprint for any brand navigating transformation in a world where consumers are co-creators, not just customers.
Lead with purpose: A clear mission rooted in community and social impact fuels long-term resilience and employee engagement.
Co-create with your audience: Involve Gen Z and Gen Alpha in strategy through advisory councils and real-time feedback to drive authentic innovation.
Balance short-term execution with long-term vision: Use a clear mission as a compass and empower teams to experiment, fail fast, and pivot.
Invest in human-AI collaboration: Use AI strategically to enhance, not replace, human creativity and decision-making.
Prioritize mental health and emotional connection: Young consumers rank mental health above academics—brands must reflect this in culture and messaging.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Heart of Retail: Self-Expression and Purpose
“The reason I got into retail was I love the idea of it being a part of self-expression. And I think retail is becoming more and more participatory from a consumer standpoint.”
From Legacy to Legacy Reimagined: PacSun’s Transformation
“When one of our customers is talking about their favorite pair of jeans, it's the PacSun brand and they speak about it with great emotion.”
Co-Creation as a Business Model: The Youth Advisory Council
“We're not just talking about putting the customer at the center... We're really giving them a seat at the table to shape the future of retail alongside us.”
The Power of Research: Understanding the 'Why' Behind Gen Z
“Music is the number one source of identity for young people today, even over fashion, over apparel, over sports.”
The Future of Retail: AI, Agentic Commerce, and Leadership
Olson discusses the strategic integration of AI across PacSun, the importance of curiosity and psychological safety, and the need for leaders to balance immediate operations with long-term innovation. She champions a culture where failure is a step toward progress.
“When one of our customers is talking about their favorite pair of jeans, it's the PacSun brand and they speak about it with great emotion.”
“We're not just talking about putting the customer at the center... We're really giving them a seat at the table to shape the future of retail alongside us.”
“The reason I got into retail was I love the idea of it being a part of self-expression. And I think retail is becoming more and more participatory from a consumer standpoint.”
Host
Guest
Breanne Olson
person
PacSun
brand
Jill Dvorak
person
Co-Created
book
Bill Thorne
person
National Retail Federation
organization
Ethan Mollick
person
Co-Intelligence
book
Global Data
organization
Rare Impact Fund
organization
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