The Bad Show

Radiolab1h 6mMay 8, 2026

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Radiolab's 'The Bad Show' explores the complex, often paradoxical nature of human evil through a series of gripping stories that challenge the idea of 'bad' people as fundamentally different from the rest of us. The episode begins with a chilling true story from psychology professor David Buss, who witnessed a friend’s violent homicidal rage after being publicly humiliated—only to later learn that 91% of men and 84% of women have had similar thoughts. This leads into a deep dive into Stanley Milgram’s obedience experiments, revealing that people aren’t simply blind followers of orders, but often act out of a belief in a noble cause—like advancing science—even when it means inflicting pain. The episode then examines Fritz Haber, the Nobel laureate who revolutionized agriculture with the Haber-Bosch process but also developed chlorine gas for WWI, leading to the deaths of thousands and a tragic personal downfall. His story forces listeners to confront the moral ambiguity of genius and intent. Finally, the episode confronts the ultimate mystery of evil through the interrogation of Gary Leon Ridgway, the Green River Killer, whose chilling admission—'I just needed to kill because of that'—offers no satisfying explanation, echoing the biblical story of Job. The episode concludes with a haunting reflection: the search for 'why' in evil may not be about answers, but about our need for meaning in a chaotic world.

Key Takeaways
1

Most people have had homicidal thoughts, but acting on them is rare—suggesting that 'badness' is more common in imagination than in action.

2

People obey not out of blind obedience, but because they believe in the moral worth of the task, even when it causes harm.

3

Genius and evil can coexist in one person—Fritz Haber fed billions but also helped create chemical weapons.

4

The most disturbing evil may be the kind that has no clear motive, leaving us with only silence and a sense of cosmic unease.

5

The search for 'why' behind evil may not be about understanding, but about our deep human need for meaning and order.

Chapters
0:00
10 min

The Anatomy of a Homicidal Thought

I'm going to kill her.

Highlight
10:00
14 min

Milgram’s Obedience Experiments: The Myth of Blind Obedience

You have no other choice, teacher.

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24:00
26 min

Fritz Haber: The Man Who Fed the World and Poisoned It

He was a man who just wanted to do everything better than it had ever been done before.

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50:00
30 min

Shakespeare’s Iago: The Unmotivated Evil

What you know, you know.

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1:20:00
33 min

The Green River Killer: The Unanswerable Why

I just needed to kill because of that.

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High-Impact Quotes
What you know, you know.
Iago53:58
Viral: 95.0
I just needed to kill because of that.
Gary Leon Ridgway63:16
Viral: 92.0
I just needed to kill because of that.
Gary Leon Ridgway63:16
Viral: 92.0
Speakers

Hosts

Latif NasserLulu MillerJad AbumranRobert Kowich

Guests

David BussAlex HaslamBen WalkerDan CharlesSam KeenFred KaufmanFritz SternJames ShapiroAaron ScottJeff Jensen
Topics Discussed
homicidal thoughts95%evil without motive94%search for meaning in evil93%moral ambiguity of genius92%obedience to authority90%war crimes and ethics87%serial killer psychology85%psychological experiments80%
People & Brands

Fritz Haber

person

18xMixed

Gary Leon Ridgway

person

15xNegative

Stanley Milgram

person

12xPositive

Milgram experiment

other

10xNeutral

Iago

person

8xNegative

Green River Killer

other

7xNegative

Tom Jensen

person

6xNeutral

Jeff Jensen

person

6xNeutral

Clara Imarvar

person

6xNegative

Haber-Bosch process

other

6xPositive

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