343: BLAKE LIVELY VS. JUSTIN BALDONI PART 10! Judge Liman Guts Blake’s Case… So Why Is She Celebrating?
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In this pivotal episode of Pop Apologists, hosts Chandler and Lauren dissect the dramatic legal developments in Blake Lively's lawsuit against Justin Baldoni, where Judge Lehman dismissed 10 of her 13 claims, including all sexual harassment allegations. The ruling hinges on the fact that Lively was an independent contractor with significant creative and contractual power over the film, negating the power imbalance required under California law for a sexual harassment claim. Despite this, Lively responded with a triumphant Instagram post celebrating the court’s decision, cherry-picking quotes to frame the dismissal as a victory and positioning herself as a champion for victims of retaliation. The hosts critique her response as delusional and self-serving, arguing that her actions—such as threatening to withhold promotion unless her demands were met—undermine her credibility. They also explore the broader implications: how the case exposes the limitations of sexual harassment law when applied to co-equal professionals, and how it risks undermining genuine victims. Meanwhile, the episode touches on the fallout for Taylor Franke Paul, who is attempting a public image rehabilitation, and Meghan Markle’s apparent financial struggles, highlighted by her participation in a $3,000-per-seat retreat in Sydney. The hosts express fatigue with the constant drama, calling for a break from the cycle of celebrity feuds and online spectacle.
Blake Lively’s sexual harassment claims were dismissed because she was an independent contractor with equal power, not a subordinate, under California law.
The judge’s ruling was substantive, not technical—focusing on the lack of power imbalance, which is foundational to sexual harassment law.
Lively’s public celebration of the dismissal, including curated Canva graphics, is seen as delusional and undermines her credibility.
Retaliation claims are now the only remaining basis for the lawsuit, but proving a coordinated smear campaign is extremely difficult.
The case highlights how legal protections are meant for the structurally vulnerable, not co-equal professionals who wield significant control.
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Opening Corrections and Kennedy Curse Deep Dive
The hosts begin with two major corrections: Paige DeSorbo did not post the controversial swimwear image, and Carolyn Bessette’s mother is alive. They pivot to a proposed deep dive into the Kennedy women and the 'Kennedy curse,' highlighting the tragic lives of women tied to the family, including Jackie Kennedy, Marilyn Monroe, and Mary Jo Kopechne.
The Kennedy Curse: Women, Power, and Tragedy
“The book dives into just the way that the men in the Kennedy family were able to just do whatever the fuck they wanted and how it really ruin the lives of these women.”
Blake Lively’s Lawsuit: The Legal Foundation
“She exercised far too much power for that. Yeah. And the other piece of this that's so crucial is she never signed the actor loan out agreement.”
Why the Case Failed: Power, Contracts, and Jurisdiction
“This would have ended differently, but there was not enough evidence. And they've had years to come up with this evidence to get their ducks in a row and it just did not happen.”
Lively’s Response: Triumph or Delusion?
“She's just saying like people who can't stand up for themselves against sexual harassment. I know, I know. But it's like, those are gone now.”
“It's like, you know, if you believe everything she said, you'll believe what she said. Well, yeah, duh.”
“She exercised far too much power for that. Yeah. And the other piece of this that's so crucial is she never signed the actor loan out agreement.”
“It's giving Jerry Springer. And it's more grim and it's darker because it's all like happening on our phone.”
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Justin Baldoni
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Judge Lehman
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Kennedy family
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Taylor Franke Paul
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Meghan Markle
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Mary Jo Kopechne
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Carolyn Bessette
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Book: Ask Not
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Wayfair
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