From Safety Net to Power Base: Reclaiming Economic Power for Working People (with Jamie Keene)
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In this episode of Pitchfork Economics, Nick Hanauer and Paul introduce Jamie Keene, a Stratification Economics Fellow at the Roosevelt Institute and former Biden White House policy advisor, to discuss her groundbreaking report, 'From Safety Net to Power Base: Reimagining Not Restoring the U.S. Anti-Poverty System.' Keene argues that decades of neoliberal policy have rendered the current social safety net not just ineffective but actively counterproductive, often subsidizing the very corporations that create economic precarity. She critiques the safety net’s reliance on unregulated private markets, its fragmented and passive design, and its failure to address power imbalances. Instead of incremental fixes, Keene calls for a radical reimagining: transforming the safety net into a 'power base' through public options in healthcare, childcare, housing, and financial services, sectoral bargaining, and proactive economic planning. The conversation underscores that poverty is not merely a lack of income but a lack of power to say no—especially in insecure jobs and exploitative markets. The hosts emphasize that this isn’t just about policy reform but about rebuilding democracy by restoring countervailing power to working people, echoing the New Deal’s integrated vision of government as a force for economic fairness and stability. The episode ends on a note of cautious hope, highlighting a growing progressive consensus that systemic change—not tinkering—is now necessary.
Poverty is not just income deprivation but a lack of economic power to make choices about work, care, and life.
The current safety net inadvertently subsidizes low-wage, high-precarity corporations like Walmart and Medicare Advantage insurers.
Public options in healthcare, childcare, housing, and financial services are essential to rebalance power and lower costs.
Sectoral bargaining and proactive economic planning (e.g., for AI-driven job displacement) are critical to prevent future crises.
A new New Deal-style reimagining of government’s role is needed to restore democracy and counter authoritarian populism.
The Failure of Trickle-Down and the Case for Middle-Out Economics
Nick Hanauer opens the episode by framing rising inequality and political instability as the result of failed trickle-down economics, introducing middle-out economics as the alternative—where the middle class is the engine of growth, not a byproduct.
The Safety Net Is Broken: A Bipartisan Game of Attrition
The hosts reflect on how both Democrats and Republicans have systematically weakened the social safety net over decades, with Bill Clinton’s 'welfare reform' and Reagan’s demonization of the term 'welfare' marking key turning points in the erosion of public support.
Jamie Keene’s Thesis: From Safety Net to Power Base
“We are called upon to help the discouraged beggars in life's marketplace. But one day we must come to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring.”
The Three Structural Flaws of the Safety Net
“The safety net functions as an inadvertent form of corporate welfare.”
Public Options and Power Rebalancing: A New Deal for the 21st Century
“If we want to save our democracy, we need to rethink, reimagine, and we need to address this better.”
“We are called upon to help the discouraged beggars in life's marketplace. But one day we must come to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring.”
“The safety net functions as an inadvertent form of corporate welfare.”
“The market cannot and will not do that. It will create more homelessness because there's a lot of money to be made off of poor people.”
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Jamie Keene
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Paul
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Nick Hanauer
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Roosevelt Institute
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New Deal
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Franklin Delano Roosevelt
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Walmart
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Earned Income Tax Credit
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Medicare Advantage
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Social Security
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