TBT: When are Mortgage Rates Too High?
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In this Throwback Thursday episode of Passive Real Estate Investing, host Marco Santorelli revisits a pivotal discussion with industry veteran Aaron about whether mortgage rates are too high. The core argument centers on reframing the conversation: rates themselves aren't the issue—what matters is whether the investment deal makes financial sense holistically. Drawing from historical data, they highlight that current rates around 8% are actually near the long-term average since 1971 (7.79%), and far below the 18.6% peak in 1981. They emphasize that even with high rates, real estate remains a powerful wealth-building tool due to amortization, appreciation, and compounding returns. Using a detailed example of a $200,000 property with an 8% mortgage, they show that even with minimal cash flow, investors gain significant unrealized equity through loan paydown and 5% annual appreciation—leading to a total return far exceeding the cost of capital. The episode champions a long-term mindset, urging investors to focus on the full investment package, not just short-term cash-on-cash returns, and to avoid market timing. They also stress the importance of surrounding oneself with principled advisors and taking action now to secure assets for future generations amid growing institutional interest in single-family homes.
Mortgage rates are not too high if the overall investment deal makes financial sense—focus on total return, not just interest cost.
Amortization and appreciation compound over time, delivering substantial unrealized returns even in low or negative cash flow scenarios.
Historical context shows current rates (~8%) are near the long-term average and far below past peaks (18.6%), making them relatively favorable.
Rents and property values continue to rise due to strong demand and limited supply, driving returns regardless of rate levels.
Refinancing is a strategic tool—lock in a rate today, then lower it later when conditions improve, using equity to fuel further growth.
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Introduction to the Throwback Episode
Marco introduces the episode as a Throwback Thursday feature, revisiting a popular past discussion on mortgage rates. He sets the stage by emphasizing the timeless relevance of the topic and invites listeners to re-engage with foundational investing principles.
The Core Question: Are Mortgage Rates Too High?
“If the deal makes sense from an investment perspective, it has a cash on cash return and a return on investment, then it doesn't matter what the cost is.”
Historical Context and Rate Relativity
“We're still at an amazingly low interest rate when the market dictated the rates based upon the risk of putting money out there for people to use for housing.”
The Power of Amortization and Appreciation
“You can see an easy 10% when you're putting 20% down, plus if there's 5% costs, you're easy at 10% annual increase on your initial investment every single year.”
The $200,000 Property Example: A Worst-Case Scenario
“This is the worst case scenario. It only gets better from there. That's just year one, guys. Understand that.”
“Legacy is not money. Legacy is assets. Carry on those assets and the education that we're giving you today is the education you need to be given to your heirs so they have that to carry for you.”
“The 30-year fixed is the greatest financial instrument in history because it's a one-way bet.”
“This is the worst case scenario. It only gets better from there. That's just year one, guys. Understand that.”
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Aaron
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Marco Santorelli
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Warren Buffett
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Freddie Mac
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Kathy
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State Street
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Vanguard
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BlackRock
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Bankrate.com
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Case Shiller
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