Brad Setser on the War in Iran and the Future of the US Dollar
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In this episode of Odd Lots, hosts Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal welcome Brad Setser, Council on Foreign Relations senior fellow, to analyze the geopolitical and financial implications of the escalating conflict in Iran and its impact on global oil markets and the U.S. dollar's dominance. Setser challenges the popular analogy between today’s oil shock and the 1970s crises, noting that while physical disruptions to oil flows are significant—potentially cutting 10–15 million barrels per day from global trade—the price response has been muted compared to past shocks. He explains this divergence through structural factors: oil’s imperfect fungibility, regional refining mismatches, and the fact that Gulf producers like Saudi Arabia and the UAE are not capturing windfalls due to export constraints, while non-Gulf producers like the U.S., Kazakhstan, Nigeria, and Norway are benefiting. Setser also dismantles the myth of a broad 'de-dollarization' trend, arguing that global financial flows remain heavily dollar-weighted—not due to reserve holdings, but because of massive private capital allocations to U.S. equities and the U.S. current account deficit, which forces the world to finance America in dollars. He highlights that even countries like China and Russia, despite reducing visible dollar reserves, still rely on dollar-denominated flows due to currency management and trade mechanics. The discussion extends to the broader implications of 'chokepoint capitalism,' where control over strategic supply routes—like the Strait of Hormuz or semiconductors—has become central to global power dynamics. Setser concludes that while geopolitical tensions are eroding U.S. credibility, the dollar’s dominance persists due to structural economic and financial advantages, not just political will. Key takeaways include: 1) The current oil shock is more physical than price-driven, with non-Gulf producers capturing the benefits; 2) 'De-dollarization' is overstated—global financial flows remain dollar-heavy due to equity investments and U.S. trade deficits; 3) The U.S. dollar’s strength is sustained by structural demand, not just policy; 4) Geopolitical instability is reshaping global trade, with chokepoints becoming new centers of power; 5) Countries facing economic pressure from China’s export dominance (like Mexico and Brazil) are overlooked in mainstream narratives. Despite growing global skepticism toward U.S. foreign policy, the dollar remains resilient due to its entrenched role in global finance and the lack of viable alternatives.
The current oil shock is more about physical disruption than price, with non-Gulf producers like the U.S., Kazakhstan, and Norway benefiting, not Gulf states.
De-dollarization is largely a myth—global financial flows remain heavily dollar-weighted due to U.S. equity dominance and the country’s massive current account deficit.
The U.S. dollar’s strength is structural, not just political, driven by global demand for U.S. assets and the need to finance America’s trade gap.
Geopolitical power is increasingly tied to control of strategic chokepoints, from oil routes to semiconductors, reshaping global trade and diplomacy.
Even countries critical of U.S. foreign policy continue to use the dollar because it remains the most efficient and liquid global transaction currency.
Introduction and Context: Oil Shock vs. 1970s Analogy
The hosts set the stage by discussing the current geopolitical uncertainty in Iran and the recent oil price surge, drawing comparisons to the 1970s oil shocks. They question whether the current situation is truly comparable and introduce Brad Setser as a key expert to untangle the complexities.
The Physical vs. Price Shock Discrepancy
“A North Atlantic barrel can only get to China or Japan with a long trek around the world. So there's an extra shipping cost. A lot of the barrels in the North Atlantic are sweet and light... And a lot of the refiners in Asia were set up to refine medium sour.”
Who Benefits from Higher Oil Prices?
“The Gulf countries are just not the winners. Russia should win. The Ukrainians are doing their best to kind of limit the amount of Russian oil that gets in the market. The Kazakhs will win. All the stands that can export oil will win.”
The Legacy of the 1970s Petrodollar System
Setser traces the origins of the petrodollar system to the 1970s oil shocks, explaining how Gulf states accumulated dollars, which were then recycled into Eurodollars and global debt markets—laying the groundwork for the Latin American debt crisis. He notes that the petrodollar boom was temporary, with most oil exporters spending their surpluses by the 1990s.
The Myth of De-Dollarization and Reserve Portfolios
“An international large cap equity portfolio will have a U.S. share of roughly two-thirds... The Saudi Public Investment Fund... has a dollar share of 80. And that's probably typical.”
“The idea of China trying to extract a political toll... potential tolls in the Strait of Hormuz. And I've been thinking about that a lot because... we're starting to see that kind of translate into the geopolitical sphere in terms of like power nowadays is basically being able to control those choke points.”
“An international large cap equity portfolio will have a U.S. share of roughly two-thirds... The Saudi Public Investment Fund... has a dollar share of 80. And that's probably typical.”
“The Gulf countries are just not the winners. Russia should win. The Ukrainians are doing their best to kind of limit the amount of Russian oil that gets in the market. The Kazakhs will win. All the stands that can export oil will win.”
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