Yingyi Ma, "Ambitious and Anxious: How Chinese College Students Succeed and Struggle in American Higher Education" (Columbia UP, 2020)
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In this episode of New Books in Education, host Gene George-Ell interviews Mai Yingyi, professor of sociology at Syracuse University, about her book 'Ambitious and Anxious: How Chinese College Students Succeed and Struggle in American Higher Education.' The discussion explores the dramatic rise of Chinese undergraduate students in the U.S. since the 2000s—growing from under 10,000 in 2005 to nearly 150,000 by 2015, and peaking at around 330,000 in 2019 before a post-pandemic decline. Yingyi uses interviews, survey data, and fieldwork in both China and the U.S. to examine the diverse socioeconomic backgrounds of these students, challenging the stereotype of them as uniformly wealthy. She introduces the concept of a 'new education gospel,' where studying abroad—especially in the U.S.—is seen as an alternative to China’s high-pressure Gaokao system, offering a path to success even for those who didn’t excel in the domestic system. The book highlights how students’ pathways—ranging from public schools to elite international schools and boarding schools—shape their academic and social integration. A central theme is the tension between ambition and anxiety, particularly in classroom participation, driven not just by language barriers but by deep-seated cultural conditioning to fear making mistakes in a test-oriented system. Students often choose pragmatic majors like STEM and business due to 'pragmatic collectivism,' a cultural framework shaped by family expectations and market demands. Over time, many students undergo identity transformations, leading to complex decisions about returning to China, staying in the U.S., or pursuing circular mobility across countries. Yingyi concludes with practical advice for American universities: move beyond ranking-based recruitment, build direct partnerships with Chinese schools, and recognize the cultural and systemic differences students bring. Her upcoming book, 'Driven but Adrift,' will explore the post-graduation trajectories of these students, particularly their evolving gender and family dynamics in the context of low fertility and shifting social norms in China. Key takeaways include: (1) Chinese students are far more socioeconomically diverse than media portrayals suggest; (2) the 'new education gospel' offers a powerful alternative to Gaokao, but comes with intense pressure; (3) classroom participation is hindered not just by language but by internalized fear of error from test-driven education; (4) pragmatic major choices reflect cultural collectivism, not just privilege; (5) post-graduation decisions are increasingly non-binary, with students embracing flexible, transnational citizenship; and (6) U.S. institutions must build authentic relationships with Chinese schools to recruit effectively and ethically.
Chinese undergraduate enrollment in the U.S. grew over 15-fold from 2005 to 2015 and peaked at 330,000 in 2019 before declining post-pandemic.
The 'new education gospel'—studying abroad as an alternative to Gaokao—has become a powerful cultural and aspirational force in urban China.
Classroom participation challenges stem not just from language but from deep-seated fear of making mistakes, rooted in China’s test-oriented education system.
Students from privileged backgrounds often choose pragmatic majors like STEM and business due to 'pragmatic collectivism,' shaped by family and market expectations.
Post-graduation decisions are increasingly non-binary, with students navigating circular mobility across China, the U.S., and other countries.
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Audience Survey & Introduction
The episode begins with a brief promotion for the New Books Network's 2026 audience survey, encouraging listeners to share feedback on their listening habits and interests. The host then introduces Mai Yingyi and her book 'Ambitious and Anxious,' highlighting its relevance and recent Chinese translation.
Intellectual Origins & Research Motivation
Yingyi shares her personal journey as a graduate student in the U.S. and how her observation of wealthy, self-funded Chinese undergraduates at Syracuse University sparked her research. She contrasts her experience with the new generation of students, highlighting shifts in funding sources and family backgrounds.
Scale & Demographics of Chinese Undergraduates
Yingyi presents data on the explosive growth of Chinese undergraduates in the U.S., from under 10,000 in 2005 to nearly 150,000 by 2015, and a peak of 330,000 in 2019. She explains the shift from graduate to undergraduate dominance and the impact of the pandemic and political changes on enrollment trends.
Case Studies: Joy and Samantha
“They're both ambitious, different kinds of career ambitions as well as anxious. So that's actually I'm trying to really, by pointing out the differences as well as highlighting the commonalities, that's kind of the framework.”
The New Education Gospel
“If you're not very good at test taking... you could potentially still have a bright future. Especially during the time that overseas universities credentials have a good labor market return in China.”
“Language is necessary but not sufficient condition for classroom participation. So what are the other factors? A very important factor... is students reported this sense of sort of self, I would not really say censoring, but critical, internal critical voice that they're always afraid to make mistakes when they speak up.”
“Their lives, their mobility is not just binary but also quite dynamic and their mobility is quite circular. In other words, they're really making migration decisions that is going beyond the traditional literature.”
“The reason that they depend on ranking is because they don't really know much about American. They have very little information about American education, higher education, the different colleges and universities.”
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