Rewind with Karen & Georgia - 95: Gesus

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark1h 37mMay 6, 2026

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In this emotionally rich and thematically layered episode of 'Rewind with Karen & Georgia' (Episode 95: 'Gesus'), Karen Kilgara and Georgia Hardstark revisit their 2017 content with a blend of nostalgia, dark humor, and deep empathy. The episode opens with personal reflections on the turbulent nature of the 20s, highlighting how regret often stems from not living in the moment rather than from unmet ambitions. They share lighthearted tour anecdotes—including a misheard fan comment about a jealous sister and a bizarre gift of 'beaver nuggets'—before diving into chilling true crime cases. The story of Eli Stutzman, an Amish man who murdered his wife and stepson while secretly living a gay life and sending forged letters to the boy’s grandparents, underscores the dangers of hidden identities and psychological manipulation. The hosts then explore three enduring mysteries: the Springfield Three, the disappearance of nine-year-old Asha Degree (with a $100,000 reward still active), and the haunting 'Ghost of Bobby Dunbar' case, where DNA evidence ultimately proved the man raised as Bobby was not his biological son. This revelation brought emotional closure to Julia Anderson, the woman who believed her child was stolen, and raised profound questions about identity and grief. The episode reaches a powerful crescendo with the live stage appearance of Jennifer Mori Caldwell, a real-life survivor of a harrowing home invasion, whose story from 'I Survived' moved both the hosts and audience to tears. Her message—'cry or laugh, pick one'—became a guiding principle for the episode’s emotional arc, blending trauma with resilience. The segment closes on a note of levity, with the hosts playfully renaming the episode 'Fabio of the Amish,' celebrating their signature mix of absurdity and warmth. The final moments emphasize the healing power of connection, laughter, and storytelling, with heartfelt gratitude for family, community, and the courage it takes to share one’s truth.

Key Takeaways
1

The 20s are marked by emotional complexity—regret often comes from not living in the present, not from failing to have everything figured out.

2

Miscommunication and humor can turn awkward moments into lasting memories, as seen in the fan’s 'my sister's dying' misunderstanding.

3

Eli Stutzman’s crimes reveal the danger of hidden identities and the long-term psychological toll of deception, especially within closed communities.

4

DNA evidence confirmed the man raised as Bobby Dunbar was not biologically related to the Dunbar family, validating the emotional truth of Julia Anderson’s loss.

5

Public engagement through platforms like Reddit can sustain interest in cold cases, increasing the likelihood of resolution, as seen in Asha Degree’s ongoing investigation.

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Chapters
0:00
20 min

The 20s, Tour Memories, and the Beaver Nugget Mystery

My sister's dying. My sister's dying. So then Georgia laughs. Then the pictures. Karen says over Georgia. I didn't say it like that. You were kind of like, don't do that.

Highlight
20:00
20 min

The Amish Serial Killer: Eli Stutzman

He took Danny's body and laid it out in a field quote where God could find him. Yeah. And upon learning this and that bullshit story, the police reopen Ida's death from 1977.

Highlight
40:00
30 min

Three Unresolved Disappearances: Springfield Three, Asha Degree, and Bobby Dunbar

The test showed that the kid raised as Bobby Dunbar was 100% not related to the Dunbars. Holy shit. Yeah. So that poor fucking woman that came down is like, this is my son.

Highlight
1:10:00
24 min

Updates, Reflections, and the Ghost of Bobby Dunbar

The hosts share updates on the cases, particularly the ongoing investigation into Asha Degree’s disappearance and the DNA revelation in the Bobby Dunbar case. They reflect on the emotional weight of these stories and the enduring mystery of missing people in the pre-digital era.

1:29:34
1 min

The DNA Truth: Bobby Dunbar Wasn't Who They Thought

The test showed that the kid raised as Bobby Dunbar was 100% not related to the Dunbars. Holy shit.

Highlight
High-Impact Quotes
You honored me when you told my story. Oh, thank you. That's so nice. Thank you. Those damn tissues.
Jennifer Mori Caldwell100:57
Viral: 92.0
The test showed that the kid raised as Bobby Dunbar was 100% not related to the Dunbars. Holy shit. Yeah. So that poor fucking woman that came down is like, this is my son.
Georgia Hardstark90:38
Viral: 90.0
He took Danny's body and laid it out in a field quote where God could find him. Yeah. And upon learning this and that bullshit story, the police reopen Ida's death from 1977.
Georgia Hardstark55:58
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Hosts

Karen KilgaraGeorgia Hardstark

Guest

Jennifer Mori Caldwell
Topics Discussed
amish serial killer95%historical missing persons cases90%unsolved disappearances90%emotional resilience90%mental health in the 20s85%psychology of the 20s85%identity and belonging85%true crime and public engagement80%humor as healing80%
People & Brands

Georgia Hardstark

person

17xNeutral

Karen Kilgara

person

12xNeutral

Bobby Dunbar

person

12xNeutral

Jennifer Mori Caldwell

person

12xNeutral

Eli Stutzman

person

8xNegative

This American Life

media

5xPositive

Asha Degree

person

5xNegative

Julia Anderson

person

5xPositive

Springfield Three

other

4xNegative

Jennifer

person

4xPositive

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