315. The Random Killing of Theresa Cha

Murder With My Husband54mApril 6, 2026

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This episode of Murder With My Husband explores the tragic and unsolved murder of Teresa Cha, a rising author and artist in 1980s New York City. Just days after publishing her groundbreaking book *Dicte*, a genre-bending collection of poetry and photography, Teresa was brutally killed on November 5, 1982, and her body was discovered in a Soho parking lot. Initially unidentified, she was known only as 'Asian Jane Doe' until her husband, Richard Barnes, identified her from a Polaroid. The investigation quickly pointed to Joey Sanza, a security guard at the Puck Building—Teresa’s intended destination—whose bizarre behavior, possession of her stolen wedding ring, and disappearance after the murder made him the prime suspect. A month later, Teresa’s family discovered her missing red beret and gloves in a construction basement, revealing a hidden crime scene. Joey was eventually tracked down in Florida six months later, arrested for another sexual assault, and extradited to New York. Though his first two trials were overturned due to the inadmissible use of his prior sexual assault history (under the Molyneux rule), a third trial in 1987 secured a conviction for second-degree murder and sexual assault, finally delivering justice after five years of legal battles. The episode reflects on the profound loss of a voice that could have reshaped literature and feminist thought, and critiques the legal system’s failure to use pattern evidence in violent crimes. The hosts, Peyton and Garrett Morland, deliver a powerful emotional narrative, blending empathy with sharp critique of systemic flaws. They highlight how Teresa’s murder was not just a random act, but the culmination of a violent pattern in a man with a documented history of sexual violence. The episode underscores the devastating impact of crimes against marginalized voices—especially Asian American women—and questions why society allows repeat offenders to remain free. The hosts also reflect on the psychological toll of true crime, expressing discomfort with the randomness and senselessness of such tragedies, while emphasizing the importance of remembering victims and demanding justice, even when the legal system fails.

Key Takeaways
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Joey Sanza’s prior sexual assault history was inadmissible in court due to the Molyneux rule, delaying justice for five years despite clear patterns of escalating violence.

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Teresa Cha’s book *Dicte* was posthumously recognized as a seminal work in Asian American and feminist studies, proving the world lost a transformative literary voice.

3

The discovery of Teresa’s red beret and gloves in a construction basement—marked with the number 7—was a pivotal clue, tied to a dream her mother had about her daughter’s final location.

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The case illustrates how victims of random, violent crimes suffer not only physical harm but also societal erasure, making their stories harder to process and remember.

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The legal system’s reluctance to admit prior violent behavior in trials undermines justice, especially in cases involving serial offenders with clear escalation patterns.

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Chapters
0:00
7 min

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6:50
10 min

Introducing Teresa Cha: A Voice Lost Too Soon

The world would genuinely look different if Teresa Cha were still in it.

Highlight
16:40
17 min

Teresa's Journey: From Korea to New York

A detailed account of Teresa’s life: born in war-torn Korea, immigrated to the U.S., thrived academically at UC Berkeley, and moved to New York City to pursue her artistic dreams.

33:20
17 min

The Night of the Murder: A Missing Wife

I just, that is so sickening. To go to the police station? Yeah, and then they have to look at you and go... We just found your wife's dead body.

Highlight
50:00
20 min

The Hunt for Joey Sanza: A Killer with a Pattern

He had the ring. He's a thief. Here you go.

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High-Impact Quotes
I don't know if you can give me a good reason. Because we work so hard for our courts and our law to be fair. And so this is something that they say in order to be fair to every offender, we leave the past in the past usually.
Garrett Morland49:09
Viral: 92.0
I just, that is so sickening. To go to the police station? Yeah, and then they have to look at you and go... We just found your wife's dead body.
Garrett Morland22:14
Viral: 90.0
This rule basically says you can't show evidence of a defendant's prior crime to show their propensity for committing the one they're on trial for.
Peyton Morland45:13
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Hosts

Peyton MorlandGarrett Morland
Topics Discussed
true crime95%murder investigation90%justice system flaws88%pattern of violent crime85%Asian American history80%literary legacy75%women's rights70%emotional impact of true crime65%
People & Brands

Teresa Cha

person

18xPositive

Joey Sanza

person

15xNegative

New York City

place

14xPositive

Richard Barnes

person

12xNeutral

Puck Building

place

10xNeutral

Dicte

book

8xPositive

Molyneux Rule

other

6xNegative

Metropolitan Museum of Art

organization

5xNeutral

Peter the Plumber

person

5xNeutral

UC Berkeley

organization

4xPositive

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