432: Chicago's Apartment 131 Murders w/ Gregg Owen
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In this gripping episode of Most Notorious!, host Eric Rivenis sits down with Greg Owen, former assistant state's attorney and co-author of *Convergence*, to explore the chilling 1976 Apartment 131 murders in Chicago. Owen recounts how, after a career as a rock musician and a serendipitous decision to apply for a prosecutor role while in law school, he became deeply involved in one of the most perplexing cases of his career. The murder of two young, wealthy friends—Gio Messina and actress Delphine Moore—was marked by a lack of motive, no robbery, and a bizarre, nearly four-year delay in prosecution. Owen’s journey to reopen the case reveals a deeply corrupt system, a witness who feared the police, and a defendant who walked free on bond for years. Through relentless investigation, chance encounters, and the power of music to build trust with a reluctant witness, Owen and his partner Mike Goggin secured a conviction after a dramatic trial. The episode culminates in a courtroom showdown, a shocking attempted bribe, and a verdict that brought long-overdue justice. Owen reflects on the case as a profound moment of professional and personal transformation, underscoring the importance of perseverance in the face of systemic failure. Key takeaways include: 1) The power of persistence in pursuing justice, even when a case is buried; 2) The importance of human connection—Owen’s shared musical past helped gain a crucial witness’s trust; 3) Systemic corruption in the justice system can allow even the most heinous crimes to go unpunished; 4) The role of chance and convergence in solving complex cases; 5) The moral imperative to defend victims regardless of their lifestyle or background; 6) The danger of overconfidence in powerful defense attorneys; 7) The psychological toll of high-stakes trials and the need for integrity; 8) The lasting impact of true crime stories on public memory and justice reform. The episode is a masterclass in investigative tenacity and moral courage.
Persistence in pursuing justice is essential, even when a case is ignored or buried.
Human connection—like shared experiences in music—can break down barriers and build trust with reluctant witnesses.
Systemic corruption in the justice system can allow violent criminals to walk free for years.
Chance encounters and 'convergence' of events often play a pivotal role in solving complex cases.
Victims deserve justice regardless of their lifestyle or social status.
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Introduction and the Birth of a Prosecutor
Host Eric Rivenis introduces guest Greg Owen, a former rock musician turned prosecutor, whose journey into law began with a serendipitous bulletin board notice. Owen recounts his early life, musical career, and the pivotal decision to enter law school, setting the stage for his future in criminal justice.
The Apartment 131 Murders: A Case That Haunted a Prosecutor
“It's a case that stayed with me for, I don't know, what is it, almost 50 years. Because of the violent nature, but it was friend killing friends. It was a very wealthy person, young. And we never could understand why he did it.”
The Bureaucratic Nightmare: A Corrupt System
Owen exposes the deeply corrupt Cook County court system he encountered early in his career, where cases were routinely dropped due to rigged procedures, judges taking bribes, and prosecutors losing cases on purpose. This context explains why the Apartment 131 case was allowed to languish for years.
The Breakthrough: A Witness and a Phone Call
“I said, well, this is not good. So I started going through the file and as I went through it, I looked at a picture of the defendant and found out who he was and where he was from and this and that.”
The Power of Music: Building Trust with a Reluctant Witness
“It happened again, see? Now, I had never in my life considered what music would have to do with anything like this. It never even crossed my mind until this guy just happens to say we got all night.”
“He said to me, well, hello, Greg. This is the governor of the great state of Tennessee. I thought it was like a prank. But then I could hear stuff in the background. I knew he was, you know...”
“I'm going to tell you something right now. F you. And don't ever talk to me again as long as you live.”
“I go, are you kidding me? He goes, no, no. He said, I should have told Gio about this and for some reason I didn't. I might've saved his life.”
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Mitchell Weinger
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Mike Goggin
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Cedric
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Jonathan Dixon
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Cook County State's Attorney's Office
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Bill Wright
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Convergence
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Ted O'Connor
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26th Street Court
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