The Future of Employee Experience & The Field of Foresight with Jacob Morgan, host of Future Ready Leadership
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In this episode of Modern CTO, host Joel Beasley sits down with Jacob Morgan, host of Future Ready Leadership and author of his latest book on the future of employee experience. Morgan shares how his research—based on over 100 interviews with CHROs—led to the creation of 'The Eight Laws of Employee Experience,' a framework designed to help organizations return to core human-centered principles after the pandemic-driven overreach of perks and flexibility. The laws emphasize empathy, career growth, technology as an enabler of humanity, and culture as a living operating system. Morgan also introduces the 'Five Archetypes of Future Ready Leadership'—Orchestrator, Sensor, Energizer, Culture Shaper, and Ecosystem Builder—as essential mindsets for leaders navigating rapid change. The conversation then pivots to the professional field of foresight, where Morgan explains that futurism is a legitimate, credentialed discipline with tools like the Cone of Possibilities and STEEPLE analysis. He reflects on AI’s dual nature—its ability to code complex apps in hours while still hallucinating sources—and discusses real-world examples like Meta’s AI token leaderboards as both a symptom of organizational confusion and a cautionary tale. The episode closes with Morgan’s encouragement for leaders to embrace foresight as a mental muscle and a practical skill for shaping the future of work.
The future of work requires a return to human-centered fundamentals through the Eight Laws of Employee Experience.
Leaders must embody multiple archetypes—Orchestrator, Sensor, Energizer, Culture Shaper, and Ecosystem Builder—to lead effectively in uncertain times.
Foresight is a legitimate, structured discipline with tools like the Cone of Possibilities and STEEPLE analysis, not just a trendy label.
AI is both a powerful collaborator and a flawed tool—capable of complex coding but prone to hallucinations and memory lapses.
Organizations should design for career flexibility using internal talent marketplaces, real-time command centers, and AI-guided development paths.
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Introduction and the Birth of a New Book
Joel Beasley welcomes back Jacob Morgan to discuss his new book on employee experience, tracing its origins to a planned second edition of 'The Employee Experience Advantage' that evolved into a standalone work after Morgan realized the depth of post-pandemic organizational missteps.
The Eight Laws of Employee Experience
“It's not just about when and where you work, but to be able to shape your career path inside of an organization.”
The Five Archetypes of Future Ready Leadership
“The whole premise was, you know, as I was interviewing these CHROs, I realized that a lot of them during and post pandemic, they really lost their way.”
Foresight as a Legitimate Discipline
“You can get a master's degree in this or a professional certification. It's an actual discipline and it's a field.”
AI’s Paradox: Power and Peril
“It's like working with people, to be honest with you. It's like there's just these weird unexplained differences.”
“Leadership is not an HR thing. It's a YOU thing.”
“You can get a master's degree in this or a professional certification. It's an actual discipline and it's a field.”
“I've been working with engineers my entire life... working with the AI is the equivalent of me being at a table with four or five engineers who are as smart or smarter than me.”
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Meta
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Future Ready Leadership
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The Employee Experience Advantage
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Cone of Possibilities
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CORE Framework
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University of Houston
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Mark Zuckerberg
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