BONUS: Without Consent with Sarah Weinman
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In this bonus episode of Mind Over Murder, hosts Bill Thomas and Kristen Dilley welcome Sarah Weinman to discuss her groundbreaking book, Without Consent: A Landmark Trial and the Decades-Long Struggle to Make Spousal Rape a Crime. The conversation delves into the historical and legal evolution of marital rape, tracing how for centuries, the concept was legally nonexistent under common law, with wives considered property of their husbands. Weinman recounts the pivotal 1978 Oregon vs. Rideout case—the first trial of a man accused of raping his wife—highlighting the media frenzy, juror bias, and the deeply flawed legal process that led to John Rideout’s acquittal despite clear evidence of assault. The episode explores the lasting trauma inflicted on victim Greta Rideout, the societal reluctance to confront marital rape even in feminist circles, and the long-term consequences of the acquittal, which emboldened Rideout to commit further sexual assaults. The narrative culminates in Rideout’s 2017 conviction and eventual life sentence after a second trial in 2022, underscoring how legal and cultural attitudes have shifted—though not without backlash. Weinman reflects on the importance of consent, the power of survivor agency, and the ongoing need for systemic reform in how sexual violence is prosecuted and perceived. Key takeaways include: 1) Marital rape was not a crime in any U.S. state until the 1970s, and even then, change was slow and state-by-state; 2) The 1978 Oregon vs. Rideout trial was a national turning point, exposing deep societal biases and the dangers of victim-blaming; 3) Survivors of sexual assault, especially in intimate relationships, face compounded trauma due to ongoing contact and lack of escape; 4) Legal reforms like non-unanimous jury verdicts and the weaponization of sexual assault narratives remain critical issues; 5) The importance of consent, especially in long-term relationships, must be central to both law and culture; 6) Media and legal systems still struggle with balancing victim privacy and public accountability; 7) Survivor-led advocacy and storytelling are essential to progress; 8) Progress is not linear—while awareness has grown, backlash and disinformation remain potent threats.
Marital rape was not a crime in any U.S. state until the 1970s, with Oregon being one of the first to criminalize it in 1977.
The 1978 Oregon vs. Rideout trial was the first time a man was prosecuted for raping his wife, revealing deep societal and legal biases.
Victims of intimate partner sexual assault face compounded trauma due to ongoing contact, financial dependence, and fear of retaliation.
The media’s practice of naming victims in the 1970s, unlike today’s privacy norms, often led to public shaming and long-term harm.
Legal strategies that limit jury options to only the most severe charges can backfire, as seen when a lesser charge might have led to conviction.
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Introduction and Sponsorship
The episode begins with a promotional message for Shopify, followed by an introduction to the Mind Over Murder podcast and its hosts, Bill Thomas and Kristen Dilley, who are both advocates for victims of violent crime and co-administrators of the Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook group.
Sarah Weinman’s Background and Literary Work
Sarah Weinman introduces her previous books, including The Real Lolita, Scoundrel, and her edited anthologies Evidence of Things Seen and Unspeakable Acts, which explore systemic issues in true crime and the evolution of the genre.
The Legal and Historical Context of Marital Rape
Weinman explains how marital rape was legally unrecognized for centuries under common law, with wives considered property. She traces the slow, state-by-state abolition of marital rape exceptions, starting with South Dakota in 1975 and Oregon in 1977.
The Oregon vs. Rideout Case: A National Turning Point
“It’s funny that when we're talking about this, it is important that we all make note of the fact that this isn't ancient history and that this is quite recent.”
The Trial, Media Coverage, and Victim Blaming
Weinman discusses how Greta’s name was publicly exposed despite her trauma, the use of her sexual history to discredit her, and the jury’s acquittal of Rideout despite medical evidence of assault.
“The strange irony of this book, it's called Without Consent, but I never got Greta's consent. Not for lack of trying, but that was just the nature of reporting.”
“She was able to wrest some degree of autonomy back from a society and media that really took it away from her.”
“It’s funny that when we're talking about this, it is important that we all make note of the fact that this isn't ancient history and that this is quite recent.”
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John Rideout
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Sarah Weinman
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Greta Rideout
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Oregon vs. Rideout
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Bill Thomas
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Kristen Dilley
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Whitney Woodworth
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Me Too
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Salem Women's Crisis Center
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Charles Burt
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