What Founding LivBay Lash Taught Us About Building a Lash Empire + Your Lash Business Questions Answered
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In this raw and candid episode of the Oliver Lash podcast, co-hosts Shauna and Mike Jones dive into a Q&A session addressing tough questions from their audience, sharing unfiltered insights from their journey building the Lash Empire through LivBay Lash. They reflect on the evolution of the lash industry—now more saturated and noisy than ever—and emphasize that competition, while challenging, drives innovation and growth. The hosts candidly discuss the emotional toll of Mike’s incarceration, the betrayal by some close associates, and the difficulty of balancing family, business, and personal identity during crisis. Shauna shares her resilience in raising her children alone, while Mike recounts harrowing experiences in prison, including a near-violent incident over a food trade. They also reflect on the painful transition of stepping away from their original company, the loss of brand authenticity under new investors, and how this led to a powerful spiritual and professional rebirth. The episode closes with key advice: grind relentlessly, avoid mixing personal and professional relationships, protect your brand identity, and build a business rooted in purpose and emotional connection.
Competition breeds creativity and forces adaptation—embrace it as a catalyst for growth.
Never mix personal friendships with professional relationships to avoid painful conflicts when managing staff.
Always trademark your brand name before launching to avoid costly legal battles.
A strong brand is built on values, story, and emotional resonance—not just logos or products.
Personal identity is not tied to your business; stepping away can lead to spiritual and professional renewal.
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Welcome & Episode Intro
Hosts Shauna and Mike Jones welcome listeners to the Oliver Lash podcast, introducing the episode as a candid Q&A session addressing real questions from their audience. They set a tone of authenticity and entertainment.
How the Lash Industry Has Changed
“I think there's just a lot more noise now. I think a lot of people, there's a lot of people out there that have been lashing for a short while and they want to be lash experts or influencers...”
The Harsh Realities of Salon Ownership
“I think owners get a lot of undervalued sometimes. But I will say that it's difficult being an owner and having to let people go or people leaving and things get awkward or they get... Then you run into them at church. Hey! Hey!”
Surviving Adversity: Mike’s Incarceration & Emotional Toll
“I really did bite my tongue to where I was internally bleeding at times. Yeah, my husband, my family, myself just being like completely gossiped about and just horrible things being said.”
Betrayal, Trust, and the Shedding of False Friends
“The people that I thought were super down for the cause... they were like, yeah, we got your back. I love you, blah, blah, blah. And then when this happened, even though they knew what had happened, they all of a sudden were like, ugh.”
“There's always a purpose in your pain. That's what I can say. And I feel like there was so much pain in that time. But now that I look back, I'm like, God, that was needed.”
“I'm like, oh my God, my wife, my kids. I can't believe I've got to do this. And so sure enough, they unlock us. And I go walking over there, and they're following me to see if I'm going to do this.”
“I believe that the enemy loves to come and tell people... get in your head and tell you, hey listen, you're a fraud. People aren't going to like what you're talking about.”
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Mike Jones
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Shauna
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LivBay Lash
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Oliver Lash
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God
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The Enemy
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OnlyFans
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Victorville
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Sassy Lashes
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