I Am With You In The Dark | I AM | Menlo Midweek Podcast
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In this reflective episode of the Menlo Midweek Podcast, hosts Matt and Phil unpack the profound spiritual significance of Easter through the story of Mary Magdalene's encounter with the risen Jesus in John 20. They explore how Mary, a woman historically marginalized in ancient society, becomes the first witness to the resurrection—a powerful testament to God's radical inclusion and the credibility of the Gospel narrative. The conversation delves into themes of spiritual blindness, the modern tendency to reduce faith to moralism or intellectualism (what Phil calls 'Christian atheism'), and the danger of living a 'corpse-like' faith devoid of mystery, wonder, and relational intimacy with Christ. The hosts emphasize that Jesus didn’t return to make a point but to call each person by name—personal, relational, and intimate. They invite listeners to recognize Jesus in the ordinary moments, the overlooked people, and the quiet stillness of life, urging them to move beyond Easter as a seasonal event and instead let it become a catalyst for a deeper, year-round faith. The episode closes with an invitation to join Alpha, a faith exploration course hosted at Devil's Canyon Brewery, encouraging authentic, non-pressured conversations about life, meaning, and identity in Christ.
Jesus came not to make a point, but to call you by name—personally and relationally.
Our faith can become a 'corpse-like' performance of morality without power if it lacks a living relationship with Christ.
Mary Magdalene’s role as the first resurrection witness highlights God’s intentional inclusion of the marginalized.
Easter should not be a seasonal capstone but a catalyst for living a more intentional, invitational life all year long.
The spiritual realm is actively at work in our world—angels, divine presence, and supernatural encounters are real, even if hidden by noise and distraction.
Welcome & Easter Memories
Hosts Matt and Phil open the episode with warm greetings and share personal Easter memories—from baptisms in Colorado to childhood egg hunts and chaotic church plant experiences in New York. They reflect on the cultural significance of Easter as a moment of openness and wonder.
Mary Magdalene: The First Witness
“She wasn’t one of the 12. It wouldn’t have even made sense in that culture for her to be as a woman. But she might’ve been more faithful than all of them.”
The Problem of Spiritual Blindness
“We work pretty hard to therapeutize people’s symptoms that oftentimes are at least in part spiritual.”
Faith as a 'Corpse-Like' Performance
“We're living the ethics of Jesus, but it has no power and we don't have a relationship with the person. Then this sort of corpse-like faith is what we're going to follow by default.”
Jesus in the Ordinary: The Gardener
“The person you avoid eye contact with who's begging for money is Jesus. That's what he's saying.”
“He didn't come back to make a point. He came back to say your name.”
“We're living the ethics of Jesus, but it has no power and we don't have a relationship with the person. Then this sort of corpse-like faith is what we're going to follow by default.”
“The person you avoid eye contact with who's begging for money is Jesus. That's what he's saying.”
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