When is inflation no longer "transitory?"

Marketplace25mMay 12, 2026

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This Marketplace episode explores the persistent nature of inflation in the U.S. economy, questioning when 'transitory' inflation becomes permanent. With the April CPI showing a 3.8% year-on-year rise and a 0.6% monthly increase, the Federal Reserve's 2% target remains elusive. The discussion traces inflation back to a series of economic shocks—tariffs, the pandemic, and the war in the Middle East—each labeled 'transitory' at the time, raising concerns that repeated shocks have created a lasting 'inflation soup.' Experts highlight how consumer expectations, shaped by years of rising costs in housing, food, and energy, may now be self-fulfilling. The episode also examines real-world impacts on farmers in Iowa, whose input costs (fuel, fertilizer) have surged, threatening their livelihoods, and on small businesses, which are hesitant to expand amid inflation and skills shortages. Meanwhile, technological shifts like AI are reshaping the job market, with MIT's new AI and Decision Making major reflecting growing demand, though educators face challenges keeping curricula current. On the energy front, a major hydropower project from Quebec to New York is finally operational, but its long-term viability is uncertain due to Quebec's drought and shifting energy needs. The episode closes with oil prices rising amid ongoing tensions in the Strait of Hormuz, reinforcing inflationary pressures. Key takeaways include: 1) Repeated 'transitory' shocks may have created persistent inflation expectations; 2) Farmers and small businesses are under severe financial strain from rising input costs and inflation; 3) AI is transforming education and employment, but requires rapid curriculum adaptation; 4) Clean energy projects like cross-border hydropower are critical but vulnerable to changing regional needs; 5) Inflation is not just a macroeconomic issue—it’s deeply personal, affecting farmers, small business owners, and everyday consumers.

Key Takeaways
1

Repeated 'transitory' economic shocks have likely created lasting inflation expectations.

2

Farmers and small businesses are facing existential financial pressures from rising input costs.

3

AI is reshaping education and employment, requiring rapid adaptation in academic curricula.

4

Clean energy infrastructure projects are vital but vulnerable to regional shifts in energy demand.

5

Inflation is not just a headline number—it’s a lived reality affecting everyday livelihoods.

Chapters
0:00
3 min

Inflation in Focus: The 3.8% Spike

The episode opens with a review of the April CPI data, highlighting a 3.8% year-on-year inflation rate and a 0.6% monthly increase, underscoring the Fed's struggle to return inflation to its 2% target.

2:30
5 min

The Myth of 'Transitory' Inflation

How many consecutive transitory inflation events got to happen before it becomes one big pot of persistent inflation soup?

Highlight
7:30
7 min

Farmers on the Frontlines of Inflation

I wish I knew the answer to all of this. Yeah, no, I bet.

Highlight
14:00
6 min

Small Business Stagnation Amid Inflation

I know a couple who are my age, retirement age, who had just said, I'm not going to plow through my savings.

Highlight
20:00
10 min

AI's Rapid Evolution and Educational Response

MIT's new AI and Decision Making major reflects the growing demand for AI skills, but educators face the challenge of keeping pace with a technology that evolves every six months.

High-Impact Quotes
How many consecutive transitory inflation events got to happen before it becomes one big pot of persistent inflation soup?
Kristen Schwab3:15
Viral: 85.0
I'm not going to plow through my savings. You know, there's probably more that are going to hang on too long.
April Hemmings9:33
Viral: 75.0
I wish I knew the answer to all of this. Yeah, no, I bet.
April Hemmings9:15
Viral: 70.0
Speakers

Host

Kyle Riznal

Guests

April HemmingsDaniel AckermanJohn EbisCeleste CarruthersHolly WadeBeth WoodProfessor Azumar OzdagalarBob HarrisonPierre-Olivier PinoErin SmithMark MontalvoHenry Epp
Topics Discussed
Inflation Persistence95%Agricultural Economics85%Small Business Challenges80%AI and Education75%Clean Energy Infrastructure70%Labor Market Shifts65%Energy Market Dynamics60%Consumer Expectations55%
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April Hemmings

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Hydro-Québec

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Bob Harrison

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Champlain Hudson Power Express

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Kyle Riznal

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Pierre-Olivier Pino

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MIT

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2xPositive

National Federation of Independent Business

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Kristen Schwab

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Professor Azumar Ozdagalar

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