What is about to Happen in Washington State

Making the Argument with Nick Freitas26mMay 16, 2026

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In this episode of *Making the Argument with Nick Freitas*, host Nick Freitas interviews Pastor Josh McPherson, a prominent figure in the Christian nationalist movement and organizer of FreedomCon 2026, a high-profile men's conference in Washington State. McPherson argues that the church has a divine responsibility to engage in politics not as a theocracy, but as a prophetic voice calling governments to submit to Christ’s lordship. He frames the current state of Washington as a moral battleground—declared a 'sanctuary state' for abortion, progressive ideology, and Islam—where government has become actively hostile to biblical values, family, and human flourishing. The conference, he explains, is not about partisan politics but about reclaiming the 'lost art of statesmanship': the disciplined, biblically grounded leadership of men who are first faithful at home, in the marketplace, and in the church, before stepping into public service. The event aims to equip men with vision, strategy, and community to become force multipliers in cultural and political renewal. Freitas emphasizes the urgency of the moment, drawing parallels to the Founding Fathers and calling for men to stop complaining and start acting with purpose.

Key Takeaways
1

The church must act as the conscience of the nation, not disengage from politics.

2

Statesmanship is a biblically grounded, multi-dimensional calling that begins with personal and family faithfulness.

3

Washington State has become a testing ground for progressive policies that undermine family, economic opportunity, and biblical morality.

4

Men are called not to passive resistance but to active, strategic engagement in culture and governance.

5

FreedomCon is designed to build a network of godly men who can influence culture and government through disciplined leadership.

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Chapters
0:00
4 min

The Call to Biblical Masculinity and Political Engagement

When the church self-selects out of the conversation, when the church silences its prophetic voice, someone will step into the void. Godless voices and false prophets will step into the void.

Highlight
4:00
6 min

Reframing Christian Nationalism as Statesmanship

Every government has some worldview, and it's either a God-centered worldview or it's not.

Highlight
10:00
7 min

Washington State as the Breach in the Wall

If you can't start a family and those who've established a family can't afford to stay because of the taxation, you literally have the magistrate making war on the people I'm called to shepherd.

Highlight
17:00
7 min

FreedomCon: A Vision for the Lost Art of Statesmanship

Hope isn't a strategy, but a strategy can give hope.

Highlight
24:00
3 min

The Call to Action: Men, Networks, and Legacy

Freitas and McPherson conclude with a rallying cry: men must stop complaining and start building networks of godly leaders. The event is framed as a catalyst for national revival and reformation, with the potential to spark a movement across America.

High-Impact Quotes
If you can't start a family and those who've established a family can't afford to stay because of the taxation, you literally have the magistrate making war on the people I'm called to shepherd.
Pastor Josh McPherson7:59
Viral: 92.0
The kingdom of God is taken by force. I believe God is calling the men of our nation to step up, to speak up, to speak out.
Pastor Josh McPherson25:13
Viral: 90.0
The tables can turn in an instant. The craziness can stop the moment good men stand up.
Pastor Josh McPherson25:29
Viral: 90.0
Speakers

Host

Nick Freitas

Guest

Pastor Josh McPherson
Topics Discussed
Christian Statesmanship98%FreedomCon 202696%Biblical Masculinity95%Cultural Decline in Washington State92%Political Engagement of the Church90%Moral Foundations of Government88%The Lost Art of Leadership85%Men's Discipleship and Mentorship80%
People & Brands

Pastor Josh McPherson

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45xPositive

Nick Freitas

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38xPositive

FreedomCon 2026

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28xPositive

Washington State

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22xNegative

Gorge Amphitheater

place

6xPositive

Founders of the United States

other

6xPositive

Mark Driscoll

person

5xPositive

Eric Metaxas

person

4xPositive

John Lovell

person

4xPositive

Josh Howerton

person

4xPositive

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