The economic outlook of the great outdoors

Make Me Smart22mApril 24, 2026

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In this week's 'Economics on Tap' episode of Make Me Smart, host Kimberly Adams explores the current state of the U.S. outdoor recreation economy with Rachel Cohen from the Mountain West News Bureau. The conversation begins with a lighthearted drink exchange—Rachel sips a local pineapple sour from Weldworks Brewery, while Kimberly mixes a lemon blueberry shrub with soju—setting a playful tone for a deeper dive into economic trends. Cohen explains that while the outdoor economy saw a pandemic-driven surge, growth is now slowing due to post-pandemic normalization, global tariffs affecting outdoor apparel supply chains, and weather volatility. A key development discussed is a new Forest Service rule allowing ski resorts on public land to diversify beyond winter sports by redefining 'primary use' beyond revenue, enabling summer activities like mountain biking, concerts, and zip-lining. This shift reflects adaptation to climate change and seasonal instability. The episode also covers the Forest Service’s controversial move of its headquarters from Washington, D.C., to Salt Lake City, raising concerns about institutional knowledge loss and staff attrition. Park visitation data shows a slight dip in 2025 after a record year in 2024, possibly due to a government shutdown and declining international tourism, compounded by a new $100 per-person fee for non-residents entering national parks. The segment closes with a fun 'This or That' game featuring outdoor preferences, where Rachel and Kimberly debate hiking vs. biking, camping vs. glamping, and mountains vs. oceans—highlighting personal connections to nature. The episode blends economic insight with personal storytelling, underscoring both resilience and vulnerability in the outdoor economy.

Key Takeaways
1

The outdoor recreation economy is slowing post-pandemic due to normalization, supply chain disruptions from tariffs, and climate-related weather volatility.

2

A new Forest Service rule allows ski resorts to diversify into non-snow activities by shifting from revenue-based to subjective 'primary use' criteria, aiding climate adaptation.

3

The Forest Service’s move from D.C. to Salt Lake City risks losing experienced staff and institutional knowledge, echoing past agency relocations with high attrition.

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National park visits dipped slightly in 2025 after a record year, likely due to a government shutdown, reduced international tourism, and a new $100 per-person fee for non-residents.

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Outdoor businesses are adapting through multi-season offerings, but policy changes and economic pressures require long-term strategic planning.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Welcome to Economics on Tap: The Outdoor Economy in Focus

Host Kimberly Adams welcomes listeners to the weekend edition of Make Me Smart, setting the tone with a playful drink exchange and introducing the episode’s focus: the current state of the U.S. outdoor recreation economy.

2:20
3 min

Post-Pandemic Slowdown and Supply Chain Challenges

Rachel Cohen explains that the outdoor economy’s growth is cooling after pandemic-era surges, citing reduced participation from new outdoor enthusiasts, supply chain disruptions from tariffs, and the impact of volatile weather on seasonal businesses.

5:00
5 min

Forest Service Rule Change: Adapting Ski Resorts for Climate Change

It's an interesting indication of the government making it easier for these businesses to adapt to climate change.

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10:00
5 min

Forest Service HQ Relocation: Risk of Institutional Knowledge Loss

There is kind of a track record with this, which is that in the first Trump administration, the headquarters of the Bureau of Land Management were moved to Grand Junction, Colorado. And... almost 90 percent of the people who were asked to move ended up leaving.

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15:00
7 min

National Park Visits Drop Amid Policy and Global Shifts

I think it'll be pretty interesting to see what sort of effect that has. I think I talked to a lot of people... they had some mixed opinions just about whether they thought it was going to deter people from coming or not.

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High-Impact Quotes
There is kind of a track record with this, which is that in the first Trump administration, the headquarters of the Bureau of Land Management were moved to Grand Junction, Colorado. And... almost 90 percent of the people who were asked to move ended up leaving.
Rachel Cohen9:09
Viral: 90.0
It's an interesting indication of the government making it easier for these businesses to adapt to climate change.
Rachel Cohen5:40
Viral: 85.0
I think it'll be pretty interesting to see what sort of effect that has. I think I talked to a lot of people... they had some mixed opinions just about whether they thought it was going to deter people from coming or not.
Rachel Cohen12:29
Viral: 75.0
Speakers

Host

Kimberly Adams

Guest

Rachel Cohen
Topics Discussed
Outdoor Recreation Economy95%Climate Change Adaptation85%Government Policy and Regulation80%National Park Visitation Trends75%Workforce and Institutional Knowledge70%Tourism and International Travel65%Ski Industry and Seasonal Business Models60%Outdoor Lifestyle and Personal Connection to Nature55%
People & Brands

Rachel Cohen

person

15xPositive

Kimberly Adams

person

12xPositive

Forest Service

organization

10xMixed

National Parks

organization

8xMixed

Colorado

place

7xPositive

D.C.

place

6xNeutral

Salt Lake City

place

5xNeutral

KUNC

organization

3xNeutral

Mountain West News Bureau

organization

3xNeutral

New England

place

3xPositive

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