It's tough out there for new college grads
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This episode of Make Me Smart explores the increasingly difficult job market facing recent college graduates, highlighting rising unemployment and underemployment rates, particularly in the wake of economic uncertainty, the Great Recession, the pandemic, and the looming threat of AI. Host Kimberly Adams speaks with Noam Scheiber, labor reporter at The New York Times and author of 'Mutiny, the Rise and Revolt of the College-Educated Working Class,' who argues that college grads are not only struggling to find jobs that match their degrees but are also experiencing a profound sense of betrayal and radicalization. This has led to a growing worker consciousness across industries—from Starbucks and Apple stores to video game designers and doctors—many of whom are organizing unions and embracing a proletarian identity. Scheiber emphasizes that while the situation is dire, college still instills valuable agency and critical thinking skills that remain essential in an AI-driven world. The episode concludes with practical advice: stay resilient, leverage your college-earned confidence, and focus on uniquely human skills like synthesis, persuasion, and decision-making. Key takeaways include: 1) College grads are facing unprecedented job market challenges, with underemployment at 42.5% and rising debt compounding the stress; 2) A growing sense of worker solidarity is uniting college-educated workers across industries, leading to widespread unionization efforts; 3) The rise of AI threatens white-collar jobs, but human skills like critical thinking and persuasion remain irreplaceable; 4) College still provides agency and problem-solving ability that can be leveraged in tough circumstances; 5) The experience of recent grads mirrors past economic shifts but now affects white-collar workers in ways previously thought to be isolated to blue-collar labor.
Recent college grads face a historically tough job market with underemployment at 42.5% and rising debt, leading to widespread disillusionment.
A growing 'worker consciousness' is uniting college-educated workers across industries, fueling unionization and collective action.
AI threatens white-collar jobs, but uniquely human skills like critical thinking, persuasion, and decision-making remain essential.
College instills agency and problem-solving ability that can be leveraged to navigate economic uncertainty.
The radicalization of college grads reflects a broader societal shift: they no longer see themselves as future managers or owners, but as workers in solidarity.
The Tough Job Market for New Grads
“The unemployment rate for recent college grads climbed to 5.7 percent towards the end of 25, significantly higher than the overall unemployment rate of 4.2 percent.”
The Rise of the College-Educated Working Class
“They get radicalized. You know, they get very upset. They start picking fights with their employers. They go on strike. They form unions.”
Case Studies in Radicalization: From Starbucks to Doctors
“I saw this story played out across dozens of folks that I talked to. And obviously, it's played out across millions of people in the economy itself.”
Debt, Disillusionment, and Proletarianization
The episode examines how student debt and the failure to secure degree-relevant jobs have led to a profound shift in identity—college grads now see themselves as workers, not future managers or owners.
The AI Threat and the Future of White-Collar Work
Scheiber discusses how AI is accelerating the erosion of white-collar jobs, but emphasizes that human skills like reasoning, argumentation, and synthesis remain irreplaceable.
“They get radicalized. You know, they get very upset. They start picking fights with their employers. They go on strike. They form unions.”
“The white-collar workers who thought that they were pretty remote from that experience, even if they really empathized with it, are now seeing that this can basically happen to anyone.”
“The AI can kind of do the analysis for you. It may be able to create the PowerPoint presentation for you, but ultimately like a human still got to make a final call.”
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Noam Scheiber
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The New York Times
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Mutiny, the Rise and Revolt of the College-Educated Working Class
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AI
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Starbucks
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Kimberly Adams
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University of Texas at Dallas
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Apple
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Dylan Burton
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Great Recession
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