Here’s how the ultrarich avoid paying taxes

Make Me Smart17mApril 14, 2026

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In this episode of Make Me Smart, host Kimberly Adams explores how the wealthiest Americans systematically avoid paying taxes through a combination of strategic financial maneuvers and longstanding tax code loopholes. Guest Ray Madoff, law professor and author of 'The Second Estate, How the Tax Code Made an American Aristocracy,' explains the 'tax avoidance playbook' used by billionaires: avoiding salaries, borrowing against untaxed stock gains, and leveraging inheritances that are largely tax-free. She highlights how a decades-long campaign by elite families has undermined estate tax reforms, resulting in a 36-year congressional 'quiet quitting' on closing loopholes. Madoff also challenges the common argument that the rich already pay their fair share, noting that the top 1% of income earners are not the same as the top 1% of wealth holders—many of whom pay no income tax at all. The episode underscores how this tax avoidance contributes to a $2 trillion annual deficit and burdens future generations with debt, while proposing reforms like taxing wealth transfers at death or gift, rather than relying on a broad wealth tax. Despite political challenges, Madoff expresses cautious optimism that growing public awareness will pressure lawmakers to act.

Key Takeaways
1

The ultra-rich avoid taxes by not taking salaries, instead relying on tax-free stock appreciation and borrowing against their shares.

2

Estate tax loopholes, shaped by a decades-long campaign by wealthy families, allow inheritances to pass largely tax-free.

3

The top 1% of income earners pay 40% of federal income taxes, but this group is not the same as the wealthiest Americans, who often pay no income tax.

4

Taxing wealth transfers—whether at death or as gifts—could create a fairer system without triggering double taxation.

5

Public awareness is growing, and state-level wealth tax experiments may pressure federal action in upcoming elections.

Chapters
0:00
3 min

Supporting Public Media & Tax Day Context

The episode opens with a call to support Make Me Smart as a public media initiative, setting the stage for a discussion on tax fairness during tax season.

3:00
4 min

The Tax Avoidance Playbook of the Ultra-Rich

The very first step of the tax avoidance playbook that the very rich do is that they don't take salaries.

Highlight
7:00
5 min

The Estate Tax Loophole & Political Inaction

Since 1990, Congress has not enacted a single provision addressing any of the loopholes that have been developed in that time.

Highlight
12:00
6 min

Reforming the Tax Code: From Wealth Taxes to Transfer Taxes

We should say that whenever this person transfers the wealth either during life or at death, they should pay tax on that gain.

Highlight
18:00
1 min

The Broader Economic Impact of Tax Avoidance

The failure to tax the ultra-rich contributes to a $2 trillion annual deficit, with $1 trillion spent just on debt service, burdening future generations.

High-Impact Quotes
Since 1990, Congress has not enacted a single provision addressing any of the loopholes that have been developed in that time.
Ray Madoff5:06
Viral: 90.0
We should say that whenever this person transfers the wealth either during life or at death, they should pay tax on that gain.
Ray Madoff15:33
Viral: 88.0
The very first step of the tax avoidance playbook that the very rich do is that they don't take salaries.
Ray Madoff2:08
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Kimberly Adams

Guest

Ray Madoff
Topics Discussed
tax avoidance strategies95%estate tax loopholes90%wealth inequality88%wealth transfer taxation87%tax code reform85%income vs wealth80%national debt75%public media funding35%
People & Brands

Ray Madoff

person

15xPositive

United States Congress

organization

5xNegative

Marketplace.org

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4xPositive

Make Me Smart

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4xPositive

The Second Estate

book

3xPositive

Warren Buffett

person

2xNeutral

Mark Zuckerberg

person

2xNeutral

Splendid Table

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2xPositive

Boston College Law School

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2xNeutral

Jeff Bezos

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2xNeutral

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