AnnMarie Marlier S3E154
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Dr. Anne-Marie Malia, Executive Director of the Business Ethics Alliance, shares a deeply personal and reflective journey spanning her upbringing in Wisconsin, formative experiences with nature and family, and the profound impact of losing both parents at 23. She recounts how this tragedy reshaped her understanding of time, fragility, and community, leading her to embrace a 'communio' philosophy—learning and growing together. Her career path, shaped by a lifelong passion for education, evolved from theater and communications to adult learning and leadership development, culminating in her current role advancing ethical practices in business. She emphasizes the importance of vulnerability, mental wellness, and human-centered growth, while advocating for women in leadership and challenging systemic inequities. Her insights on AI ethics, mental health, and the need to unlearn productivity-driven mindsets offer a compelling vision for a more compassionate, collaborative future. The conversation closes with a poetic meditation on life’s meaning, framed through the Danish concept of hygge—finding joy in quiet, shared moments of presence.
Embrace 'communio'—the power of collective growth and shared resilience in times of loss.
True education is about forming people, not just informing them, especially through adult learning and lived experience.
Mental health is as vital as physical health—normalize seeking help and understanding emotional pain.
Ethical AI requires human oversight; technology amplifies decisions, but people bear the responsibility.
Unlearn the need to be constantly productive and learn to ask for help with courage and humility.
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Introduction and Early Life in Wisconsin
Stuart Chittenden introduces Dr. Anne-Marie Malia, Executive Director of the Business Ethics Alliance, and begins her story with her childhood in Milwaukee and Decatur, Illinois. She reflects on growing up in the Great Lakes region, the influence of nature, and early experiences with storms and family resilience.
Family, Creativity, and the Path to Education
Malia discusses her family’s legacy in education and service, her early involvement in children’s theater, and how her curiosity and creativity were nurtured by both parents. She reflects on her decision to attend St. Norbert College after a financial aid crisis at her first-choice school.
Loss, Grief, and the Power of Community
“Even through this horrible, horrible time, the fact that they were together, I think just I can see a little bit of the good in the horrible.”
Reinventing Identity in Adulthood
“When I see those light bulbs, small or big, go on, it's hard to describe the feeling, but it's like, all right, I think I've helped someone become just a little bit more independent.”
Women in Leadership and Ethical Responsibility
“I see more collaboration. I see more partnerships. And I think when we act in those ways... the outcome is far greater and far more positive.”
“Ethical behavior in artificial intelligence rests with people. I asked for that session when I was facilitating, I asked ChatGPT... is artificial intelligence capable of ethical behavior? And ChatGPT basically said, no...”
“To me, that sounds like an absolutely wonderful way to contemplate who you are and the meaning of life and just sort of be because I think that's a really great way to think about what life's all about is being who you are.”
“Even through this horrible, horrible time, the fact that they were together, I think just I can see a little bit of the good in the horrible.”
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Dr. Anne-Marie Malia
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Stuart Chittenden
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Business Ethics Alliance
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St. Norbert College
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Better Business Bureau
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hygge
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ChatGPT
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Queen Victoria
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Creighton University
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Dr. Beverly Crocker
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