Cop Fatally Shoots Bad Guy During Pursuit After He Pulls Firearm On Video - LEO Round Table S11E064

LEO Round Table45mApril 7, 2026

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The LEO Round Table episode examines several high-profile law enforcement incidents, beginning with a tragic school shooting in Texas where a 15-year-old student fatally shot a teacher and then himself, sparking a discussion on school safety protocols and the effectiveness of 'protect in place' strategies. The panel, including retired Chief Joel Schultz and Lieutenant Randy Sutton, emphasizes that locked classroom doors are 100% effective in preventing student fatalities during active shooter events and critiques the media's disproportionate coverage of school shootings based on geography and demographics. The conversation shifts to a Colorado sheriff and four deputies indicted for criminal misconduct, including mishandling human remains and alleged use of excessive force during a mental health crisis. Chief Schultz provides context on the rural, under-resourced nature of the agency and stresses the importance of fair legal scrutiny despite public prejudice against small departments. The episode then analyzes two officer-involved shootings: one in Howard County, Maryland, where a 25-year-old man with autism was shot after approaching officers with a knife, and another in Dayton, Ohio, where a man was fatally shot after fleeing a minor traffic stop for riding a bike without a headlight. The panel debates the use of less-lethal options, tactical decisions like holstering a firearm in a dangerous situation, and the need for better de-escalation training and body camera narration. Throughout, the hosts advocate for evidence-based policing, systemic reform, and empathy for both officers and victims' families.

Key Takeaways
1

Locked classroom doors are 100% effective in preventing student fatalities during active shooter events—protect in place is the gold standard.

2

Small, under-resourced agencies face disproportionate scrutiny and must be afforded fair legal processes despite systemic challenges.

3

Officers should never holster a firearm when a weapon is present and accessible, even if it's dropped or discarded.

4

Lack of less-lethal tools like tasers or beanbag launchers can lead to tragic outcomes, especially in mental health crises.

5

Body camera footage must include verbal narration of threats and weapon sightings to ensure transparency and accountability.

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Chapters
0:00
15 min

School Shooting in Texas: Protect in Place and Media Bias

The safest place for a K-12 student is behind a locked classroom door when the bad guy is on the other side of the locked door. There have been zero fatalities of K-12 students when they are locked in a classroom behind a locked classroom door.

Highlight
15:00
15 min

Colorado Sheriff and Deputies Indicted: Systemic Issues in Small Agencies

It's a small county. It's a poor county. Poor wages, poor recruitment, poor retention, all of the things that work against quality law enforcement, sad to say.

Highlight
30:00
15 min

Howard County Shooting: Autism, De-escalation, and Less-Lethal Tools

This reveals why lower lethality type of objects can be utilized. They had no beanbag gun. They didn't try to deploy a taser or a wrap or anything else.

Highlight
45:00
15 min

Dayton Police Shooting: Pretextual Stop and Tactical Errors

The episode examines a fatal shooting in Dayton, Ohio, where a man was shot after fleeing a minor traffic stop for riding a bike without a headlight. The panel critiques the officer’s decision to holster the firearm after the suspect dropped it, and the failure to verbally announce the weapon’s presence. They emphasize the need for better training and body camera narration.

High-Impact Quotes
The safest place for a K-12 student is behind a locked classroom door when the bad guy is on the other side of the locked door. There have been zero fatalities of K-12 students when they are locked in a classroom behind a locked classroom door.
Dr. Joel Schultz4:37
Viral: 92.0
This reveals why lower lethality type of objects can be utilized. They had no beanbag gun. They didn't try to deploy a taser or a wrap or anything else.
Lieutenant Randy Sutton26:27
Viral: 88.0
It's a small county. It's a poor county. Poor wages, poor recruitment, poor retention, all of the things that work against quality law enforcement, sad to say.
Dr. Joel Schultz18:18
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Chip DeBlock

Guests

Dr. Joel SchultzLieutenant Randy Sutton
Topics Discussed
school safety95%officer-involved shootings90%less-lethal weapons88%mental health crises85%small agency challenges82%body camera ethics78%media bias75%de-escalation tactics70%
People & Brands

Dr. Joel Schultz

person

25xPositive

Lieutenant Randy Sutton

person

20xPositive

Chip DeBlock

person

15xNeutral

Costilla County Sheriff's Office

organization

12xNegative

Dayton Police Department

organization

9xNeutral

Sheriff Danny Sanchez

person

8xNegative

Howard County Police

organization

8xNeutral

Alex Lamori

person

7xNeutral

Deputy Keith Schultz

person

6xNegative

Reginald Thomas

person

6xNeutral

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