Attacks on culture in the USA, plus the secret life of famous author Daniel Defoe
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This episode of Late Night Live explores two interconnected themes: the erosion of cultural and journalistic independence in contemporary America under Trump's influence, and the hidden life of Daniel Defoe as a spy in 18th-century Scotland. Sebastian Smee, former Pulitzer Prize-winning art critic at The Washington Post, recounts how Jeff Bezos, despite initial resistance to Trump’s bullying, eventually compromised the paper’s editorial independence by cutting staff—particularly in the arts—after losing money, while also currying favor with the Trump administration through public displays of loyalty. Smee highlights the cancellation of a Philip Guston retrospective at the National Gallery as a chilling example of censorship driven by political pressure, and draws parallels between current U.S. cultural attacks and authoritarian tendencies. The second half turns to historical espionage, with Mark Mirowski discussing how Daniel Defoe, a failed businessman and pamphleteer, was recruited by Robert Harley to infiltrate Scottish opposition to the 1707 Union with England. Defoe used deception, propaganda, and intelligence gathering to dismantle resistance, while simultaneously writing fiction that mirrored his own double life. Mirowski argues Defoe’s work laid the foundation for modern political surveillance and the role of the ideologically driven operative in shaping public perception. The episode underscores a recurring danger: when power is wielded to silence dissent, whether through government pressure on museums or corporate ownership of media, the integrity of truth and culture is compromised. Smee’s personal experience at The Post serves as a warning about the fragility of free expression in the face of economic and political coercion. Meanwhile, Defoe’s legacy reveals how fiction and espionage are not so different—both rely on narrative, deception, and the manipulation of perception. The show concludes with a reflection on the enduring relevance of both historical and modern threats to free thought, urging vigilance in protecting institutions that uphold truth and artistic freedom.
Cultural institutions like museums are increasingly vulnerable to political pressure, as seen in the cancellation of Philip Guston’s exhibition over controversial imagery.
Media independence is at risk when owners prioritize political favor over journalistic integrity, as demonstrated by Jeff Bezos’ shift in tone toward Trump.
The arts are being weaponized in political discourse, with accusations of 'radical ideology' used to justify censorship and funding cuts.
Daniel Defoe’s espionage in Scotland reveals how early forms of political manipulation and surveillance were used to engineer national unity through deception.
Fiction and espionage share a deep connection: both rely on narrative, identity performance, and the strategic use of truth and lies.
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Opening: Nature's Most Wanted and the State of American Culture
The episode opens with a brief teaser about a bird disrupting CERN, then transitions into a discussion of cultural threats in America, setting the stage for Sebastian Smee’s analysis of the decline of press and artistic freedom.
The Washington Post Under Bezos: From Thriving to Censored
“I thought, wow, that is unbelievably patronizing, condescending and so many other bad words. I just couldn't abide it.”
The Guston Cancellation: A Case Study in Cultural Censorship
“And instead it chose to just... give up on that role and cancel the whole thing.”
The Weaponization of Culture: Trump’s Attacks on Arts and Institutions
“It's really flagrant, it's really depressing and it's unbelievably crude in the way it's being done.”
The Rise of Authoritarian Aesthetics: Gilded Walls and Classical Ruins
“It's like a skin disease. It's spreading around the Oval Office.”
“Had we known he was a spy amongst us, the mob would have torn him to pieces.”
“I thought, wow, that is unbelievably patronizing, condescending and so many other bad words. I just couldn't abide it.”
“It's really flagrant, it's really depressing and it's unbelievably crude in the way it's being done.”
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Guests
sebastian smee
person
daniel defoe
person
the washington post
organization
donald trump
person
david marr
person
mark mirowski
person
jeff bezos
person
philip guston
person
robert harley
person
the union of england and scotland
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