The Bund: Fighting Fascism, Fighting Zionism (w/ Molly Crabapple)
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In this powerful episode of Know Your Enemy, host Sam Adler-Bell interviews artist and author Molly Crabapple about her deeply researched and emotionally resonant book, *Here Where We Live Is Our Country: The Story of the Jewish Bund*. The Bund, founded in 1897 in the Tsarist Empire, was a secular, socialist, anti-Zionist Jewish revolutionary movement that sought to fight for the dignity and liberation of Jewish workers in Eastern Europe while building solidarity across ethnic lines. Crabapple traces the Bund’s rise from grassroots organizing in shtetls like Volkovisk to its pivotal role in Russian revolutionary politics, its fierce opposition to Zionism, and its ultimate tragic fate under Stalinist repression and the Holocaust. The conversation delves into the Bund’s radical commitment to 'hereness'—the belief that Jews could and should flourish in their ancestral lands—contrasted with Zionism’s exodus narrative. The episode culminates in a harrowing yet inspiring account of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, where Bundists and left-wing Zionists briefly united in armed resistance, only to be abandoned by both the Polish Home Army and the Red Army. Crabapple argues that the Bund’s prescience about the dangers of nationalism and settler colonialism—especially in the rise of figures like Jabotinsky and the modern Israeli state—explains why the movement continues to provoke intense hostility from Zionists today. The episode is a profound meditation on Jewish identity, revolutionary ethics, and the enduring relevance of anti-nationalist, internationalist socialism in the face of contemporary genocidal violence. Key takeaways include: 1) The Bund’s vision of 'hereness'—Jewish flourishing in Eastern Europe through solidarity, not exile—offers a radical alternative to Zionist ethno-nationalism. 2) The Bund’s opposition to Zionism was not based on anti-Semitism but on a principled rejection of racial nationalism and collaboration with anti-Semites. 3) The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was a moment of rare, desperate solidarity between Bundists and left-wing Zionists, underscoring that resistance was possible even in extremity. 4) The failure of international solidarity—especially from the Polish Home Army and the Red Army—exposes the limits of revolutionary idealism when not backed by real power. 5) The Bund’s warnings about the fascist potential of Zionism were tragically accurate, and their legacy remains a vital counter-narrative to the myth of Jewish strength through militarism. The episode ends with a searing indictment of how Zionism uses the Holocaust to justify present-day violence in Gaza, while the Bund’s story remains a beacon of hope for a more humane, inclusive Jewish future.
The Bund’s 'hereness' philosophy affirmed Jewish belonging in Eastern Europe, rejecting exile and advocating for dignity and solidarity across ethnic lines.
Zionism was not just ideologically opposed to the Bund—it was seen as a betrayal of Jewish workers and a collaboration with anti-Semites, especially through Herzl’s dealings with Russian officials.
The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was a joint effort of Bundists and left-wing Zionists, proving that unity across ideological divides was possible even in the face of annihilation.
The Bund’s warnings about the fascist tendencies of nationalist movements like Jabotinsky’s Beitar and the Likud were prescient and remain relevant today.
The abandonment of Warsaw by the Polish Home Army and the Red Army reveals the limits of revolutionary solidarity when power structures are unyielding.
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Introduction and Context: The Bund’s Timely Relevance
“It's just really inspiring but also challenging. You just got an incredible review in the New York Times today. Yeah, I almost couldn't believe it. And it's causing the very worst Zionists on Twitter to fill their diapers with just torrents of rage and anger.”
The Origins of the Bund: Oppression and Revolutionary Response
“They realized that in the Tsarist Empire, the Jewish worker was oppressed both because he was a worker and because he was a Jew. He was oppressed for his race and for his class. They basically prefigured intersectionality.”
The Bund’s Revolutionary Impact and Early Success
“The Bund is incredibly powerful, and a lot of that is because unlike the other parts of the Russian Social Democratic and Labour Party, they are very much an organization of the people. There's this word that I really love, which is tuer. It means doer in Yiddish. And the Bundists were tuers par excellence.”
The Bund vs. Zionism: A Rivalry of Visions
“They felt like Zionism was capitulation to the same bigots that wanted to kick Jews out of their home. At this time, you have these ethno-nationalist movements in Eastern Europe that view Jews as these swarthy satanic others who should dick off to Palestine.”
The Legacy of Hereness and the Rise of the Bund in Poland
“They believed that Jews should be able to not just survive, not just be grudgingly tolerated, but to flourish and have beautiful dignified lives in the lands where they already lived, which is Eastern Europe for the majority of Jews in the world.”
“The whole city was covered with smoke and ash. And the ghetto burned while Polish Warsaw lived. That's the truth.”
“The truth is they got their state. And what sort of state did they get? And what has it given the world? Yeah, pretty much exactly the sort of state that very prominent Bundists expected them to build.”
“They felt like Zionism was capitulation to the same bigots that wanted to kick Jews out of their home. At this time, you have these ethno-nationalist movements in Eastern Europe that view Jews as these swarthy satanic others who should dick off to Palestine.”
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Molly Crabapple
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Jewish Labor Bund
organization
Sam Adler-Bell
person
Vladimir Lenin
person
Warsaw Ghetto
place
Polish Socialist Party
organization
Theodor Herzl
person
Red Army
organization
Joseph Stalin
person
British Empire
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