Coping with chronic pain: Advice, tools and finding support

Just Asking55mMay 16, 2026

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Chronic pain isn't just a physical condition—it's a life-altering experience that reshapes identity, relationships, and self-worth. One in five Canadians live with chronic pain, yet many suffer in silence due to medical dismissal, especially young people and women. In this powerful episode of Just Asking, Dr. Norman Buckley and chronic pain advocate Desmond Williams expose how systemic failures—long wait times, lack of interdisciplinary care, and inadequate medical training—leave patients stranded in a cycle of frustration and disability. The episode reveals a shocking truth: chronic pain often begins in childhood, yet children are routinely told to 'shake it off,' leading to years of untreated suffering. Desmond, who lived with undiagnosed pain for 13 years, and Genevieve Batista, who faced medical misogyny and invalidation, illustrate how the absence of a diagnosis can be as damaging as the pain itself. Yet amid the despair, there is hope: peer support networks, adaptive tools, and self-advocacy are lifelines. Natasha Trehan, a teen founder of Take a Pain Check, proves that lived experience can fuel systemic change. The episode ends with a crucial message: joy and creativity aren't luxuries—they're acts of resistance. Finding ways to adapt, pace, and access support—whether through biologics, accessibility devices, or community—can help people reclaim their lives.

Key Takeaways
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Chronic pain affects 1 in 5 Canadians, with 8 million people currently living with it—yet many go undiagnosed or dismissed.

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Children experience chronic pain as frequently as adults, but are often told to 'shake it off,' leading to long-term emotional and academic damage.

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Medical misogyny and racial bias in healthcare can lead to invalidation, with patients being told their pain is 'all in their head' or caused by mental health.

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The most effective treatment for complex chronic pain is interdisciplinary care—combining physicians, psychologists, physical therapists, and social workers.

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Long wait times for specialized clinics (up to 2 years) worsen disability, depression, and job loss, making early intervention critical.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Chronic Pain in Canada: A Growing Crisis

The episode opens with a CBC podcast promotion before introducing the central theme: chronic pain affects 8 million Canadians and is rising. Host Seroja Coelho shares her personal experience with pain after climbing Kilimanjaro, setting the stage for a deep dive into the physical, emotional, and systemic challenges of living with chronic pain.

2:22
3 min

Defining Chronic Pain and the Hidden Toll on Children

Dr. Norman Buckley defines chronic pain as lasting more than three months. He emphasizes that children suffer just as much as adults, often failing in school or socializing due to pain they're told to ignore. The episode highlights how dismissing children's pain creates long-term harm.

5:50
5 min

Desmond Williams: 30 Years of Living with Undiagnosed Pain

I didn't realize that it was affecting me in that way. I don't want to dive too deep into any medical information that you don't feel like sharing.

Highlight
10:40
6 min

Primary vs. Secondary Chronic Pain: What's the Difference?

Dr. Buckley explains the distinction between primary pain (like fibromyalgia, where pain arises from nervous system malfunction) and secondary pain (from conditions like arthritis, cancer, or diabetes). The latter is often treatable, but the former remains elusive.

17:00
7 min

Andy’s Story: The Limits of Medical Care

Gravity is my biggest enemy. Just to give you an example, as soon as I get in a saltwater pool to exercise, because that's the only place I can exercise, my pain goes from a nine down to a three.

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High-Impact Quotes
I developed a lot of mental health issues as a subsequent of not being believed. And because of that, doctors would see that in my file and then say that my pain was caused by my mental health issues, which wasn't the case.
Genevieve Batista39:54
Viral: 88.0
Gravity is my biggest enemy. Just to give you an example, as soon as I get in a saltwater pool to exercise, because that's the only place I can exercise, my pain goes from a nine down to a three.
Andy McIntosh14:44
Viral: 85.0
In Indigenous communities in certain places across Canada, they might not even have particular words or perspectives in the name of what we consider pain because pain is more than just a physical component.
Desmond Williams51:19
Viral: 82.0
Speakers

Host

Seroja Coelho

Guests

Dr. Norman BuckleyDesmond WilliamsNatasha Trehan
Topics Discussed
chronic pain95%interdisciplinary pain care90%medical dismissal88%patient advocacy85%chronic pain in children85%chronic pain and mental health80%pain management tools75%accessibility devices70%
People & Brands

Desmond Williams

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15xPositive

Dr. Norman Buckley

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12xNeutral

Natasha Trehan

person

8xPositive

Take a Pain Check Foundation

organization

6xPositive

Pain Canada

organization

4xPositive

Rheumatoid Arthritis

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3xNeutral

Juvenile Idiopathic Arthritis

other

3xNeutral

Biologics

other

2xPositive

Ottawa Hospital Pain Clinic

organization

2xPositive

CBC Podcasts

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2xNeutral

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