200: Young Podcaster of the Year treads the boards: Jason Isaacs and Nathan Trochet

Jonny Gould's Jewish State55mApril 29, 2026

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Jason Isaacs, best known for his iconic role as Lucius Malfoy in the Harry Potter films, reveals how he almost turned down the part due to his desire to avoid playing 'another bad guy'—especially after being cast as Captain Hook in Peter Pan. His transformation into Malfoy wasn't just about the script; it was a full creative collaboration with costume, makeup, and props teams, where he famously wrapped a curtain around himself and demanded a cane that could conceal a wand. He describes the magic of the Harry Potter sets—Hogwarts and the Ministry of Magic—as real, immersive worlds that made him feel like he’d stepped into a living story. Meanwhile, 16-year-old Sarah Amsalem, the winner of the Northwest London Jewish Day School Podcaster of the Year award, shares her journey from a childhood performance in Robin Hood to her dream of becoming a film actor. She offers raw, heartfelt advice: 'Never, ever give up'—a mantra forged through forgetting lines, facing rejection, and enduring the '100,000 no’s' that precede one 'yes'. The episode becomes a powerful meditation on identity, legacy, and the quiet dignity of craft—where Jason reflects that 'prizes for art are silly,' and Sarah reminds us that the real reward is showing up, again and again, even when no one’s watching.

Key Takeaways
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Jason Isaacs turned down Lucius Malfoy initially, fearing he’d play 'another bad guy'—but his creative input on costume, cane, and voice made the role iconic.

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The Harry Potter sets were fully built, not just camera-ready—Hogwarts and the Ministry of Magic were real, immersive worlds that felt alive to actors.

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Isaacs created Lucius Malfoy’s voice to be 'fingernails on a blackboard'—a deliberately irritating, arrogant tone designed to contrast Alan Rickman’s sinister elegance.

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Sarah Amsalem’s proudest moment as an actor was receiving a call from her agent—'I'll call you in five minutes'—a tiny moment that felt like entry into the industry.

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Forgetting lines is more traumatic than tripping on stage, but tripping can be turned into a performance if you stay in character and improvise.

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Chapters
0:00
1 min

Podcaster of the Year Award Intro

Jonny Gould introduces the fourth annual Podcaster of the Year award, sponsored by Dango Education, highlighting its mission to inspire youth in journalism and storytelling.

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2 min

Jason Isaacs on Rejecting Lucius Malfoy

I didn't want to do it. I was about to go off to Australia to make Peter Pan to play Captain Hook. And I thought, well, that's one bad guy in a children's film is enough. You don't do two.

Highlight
3:00
2 min

The Birth of Lucius Malfoy’s Look

I grabbed this white, almost tinfoil thing and I stuck it on my head... I wrapped it around me and I went down to the set and the director was actually shooting the pixie scene with Gilderoy Lockhart.

Highlight
5:00
2 min

The Magic of the Sets

I remember being so impressed by it on my first day was Dumbledore's office that I said, I say to the props guy, my god, I've never seen anything like this.

Highlight
7:00
2 min

Sarah Amsalem’s Journey to Acting

The 16-year-old Podcaster of the Year winner shares her origin story—falling in love with acting at age 9 in a school production of Robin Hood.

High-Impact Quotes
about to go. I knew that very soon I was going off to Australia to make Peter Pan to play Captain Hook. And I thought, well, that's one bad guy in a children's film is enough. You don't do two.
Jason Isaacs5:59
Viral: 85.0
I think prizes are weird and silly. Prizes for art are silly. Prizes for racers, I get it. Usain Bolt is faster than other people. I'm not in a competition.
Jason Isaacs1:27
Viral: 80.0
I remember being so impressed by it on my first day was Dumbledore's office that I said, I say to the props guy, my god, I've never seen anything like this.
Jason Isaacs7:47
Viral: 78.0
Speakers

Host

Jonny Gould

Guests

Jason IsaacsNathan TrochetSarah Amsalem
Topics Discussed
harry potter films95%acting career90%character development85%podcaster of the year80%audition process75%theatre performance70%film production65%jewish identity60%
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Jason Isaacs

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Nathan Trochet

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Sarah Amsalem

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The Last of Us

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Dango Education

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Globe Theatre

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Hunger Games

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UK Teremet

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