Is There A Recruiting Rankings Bias Against Notre Dame?
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The Irish Breakdown Podcast dives into a critical examination of whether national recruiting rankings exhibit a bias against Notre Dame, particularly in the context of the 2023 and 2024 recruiting classes. Despite Notre Dame's roster being projected as a top-five team in college football—featuring key contributors like CJ Carr, Leonard Moore, Tay Johnson, and Don Shuler—those same players were consistently undervalued in national recruiting rankings. The hosts analyze data from On3, 247 Sports, and ESPN, revealing that many of Notre Dame’s projected starters were ranked outside the top 300, with some not even ranked at all. While the hosts acknowledge that all recruiting services have inherent biases, they argue that 247 Sports displays a clear anti-Notre Dame bias, with multiple high-profile recruits dropping dramatically in rankings after committing to the program—despite stellar senior seasons. In contrast, On3 is criticized for poor positional evaluations, especially at quarterback and defensive back, but not for a specific Notre Dame bias. The discussion ultimately concludes that while individual evaluators have flaws, the consistent undervaluation of Notre Dame talent—especially from the Midwest—suggests systemic issues in how national outlets assess the program.
Notre Dame’s 2023 and 2024 recruiting classes were ranked 10th–13th nationally in consensus rankings, despite producing a projected top-five roster.
Multiple Notre Dame starters, including CJ Carr and Leonard Moore, were ranked outside the top 200 by major outlets, despite proving their worth on the field.
247 Sports shows a pattern of significant ranking drops for Notre Dame commits after they commit, suggesting a potential program-specific bias.
On3 is criticized for poor evaluations at quarterback and defensive back, but not for a deliberate anti-Notre Dame bias.
The hosts argue that recruiting rankings are flawed and should not be the sole predictor of team success, especially for programs like Notre Dame that develop talent beyond the hype.
Introducing the Notre Dame Recruiting Debate
The hosts kick off the episode by setting the stage for a deep dive into whether national recruiting rankings systematically undervalue Notre Dame’s talent, especially in the 2023 and 2024 classes. They highlight the disconnect between Notre Dame’s projected elite roster and their low national rankings.
The Data Behind the Undervaluation
“Notre Dame has nine players that on three didn't think were good enough to be ranked as top 300 players.”
Debating the Bias: On3 vs. 247 Sports
“You have to be smart enough to say, we can't be that stupid. The other part of it too... you have to believe that this is just a coincidence.”
Case Studies: Players Who Dropped After Committing
“He drops all the way down to 222. Like, I'm sorry, I can't buy it.”
Conclusion: Bias, Flawed Processes, and the Bigger Picture
The hosts conclude that while all recruiting services have biases, 247 Sports exhibits a clear anti-Notre Dame bias, especially in light of consistent ranking drops for mid-major and Midwest recruits. They urge fans to question the reliability of recruiting rankings and trust in Notre Dame’s development model.
“He drops all the way down to 222. Like, I'm sorry, I can't buy it.”
“I can't look at that many players dropping year after year and say it's anything other than just a Notre Dame bias.”
“Notre Dame has nine players that on three didn't think were good enough to be ranked as top 300 players.”
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notre dame
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brian
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trev
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247 sports
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on3
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cj carr
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leonard moore
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tay johnson
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don shuler
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espn
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