The inside story of Pope Leo XIV’s election
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This special episode of Inside the Vatican features Colleen Dully joined by journalists Gerard O'Connell and Elisabetta Piquet, co-authors of The Election of Pope Leo XIV: The Last Surprise of Pope Francis. The conversation delves into the unprecedented secrecy and spiritual dimensions of the 2026 conclave that elected the first American pope, Cardinal Jean-Pierre Prévis. Drawing on years of Vatican reporting and firsthand access, the authors reveal how cardinals experienced a profound sense of divine guidance amid intense political maneuvering, smear campaigns, and internal divisions. They explain their meticulous, notebook-based research process—avoiding digital records—to reconstruct the conclave’s dynamics, including how Prévis, initially an under-the-radar candidate, emerged as a unifying figure through quiet influence, calm demeanor, and a global pastoral vision. The episode also reflects on the legacy of Pope Francis, including a touching personal story of him officiating the authors’ wedding, and explores how Pope Leo’s papacy is consolidating Francis’s reforms while appealing across ideological lines. The authors defend their work against accusations of breaking the conclave’s secrecy oath, arguing that their book is a historical record rooted in rigorous journalism and the cardinals’ own spiritual testimony.
The election of Pope Leo XIV was seen by cardinals as a moment of divine intervention, not just political calculation.
Cardinal Prévis was elected in less than 24 hours due to a combination of quiet influence, global experience, and a calm presence during the conclave.
Smear campaigns against other candidates like Cardinal Tagle and Parolin were real and impactful, but ultimately failed to block the emergence of a unifying figure.
The authors used a 'mosaic' method—jotting notes by hand—to reconstruct the conclave without relying on digital records or vote counts.
Pope Leo’s papacy is actively continuing Pope Francis’s legacy, especially on social justice, synodality, and reform of the Roman Curia.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Secret Conclave and the Call of Divine Guidance
“They said, yes, there was human calculus, but there's also the spirit of God at work in, God is at work in human history.”
The Mosaic Method: How the Book Was Built
The authors detail their painstaking, notebook-only research process—avoiding computers—to reconstruct the conclave. They describe gathering fragments of testimony from cardinals, piecing together a narrative of how Prévis emerged as a unifying figure through quiet influence and personal integrity.
The Rise of Cardinal Prévis: Under the Radar, But Not Unseen
“He was reading his own name. The fact of reading we imagine we were not there but we knew that he was reading his name several times and he did it evidently with a calm, in a way that he was in control.”
The Legacy of Pope Francis and the New Papacy
“He's not going back. That now he convoked all the president of the bishop conference to go and think about Amoris Laetitia.”
Closing Reflections and the Human Spirit of the Conclave
The episode closes with a heartfelt reflection on the emotional weight of Pope Francis’s passing and the authors’ personal connection to him. They emphasize that the book is not gossip but a historical record of a transformative moment in Church history.
“We lost a friend on earth now we've gained one in heaven.”
“They said, yes, there was human calculus, but there's also the spirit of God at work in, God is at work in human history.”
“It's a happy story but also very sad one.”
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Pope Francis
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Pope Leo XIV
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Cardinal Jean-Pierre Prévis
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The Election of Pope Leo XIV: The Last Surprise of Pope Francis
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Gerard O'Connell
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Elisabetta Piquet
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Cardinal Parolin
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Colleen Dully
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Cardinal Tagle
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Ashley McKinless
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