EP391 | How ROMES Built 1.5M Streams Independently (Without a Label)
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In this episode of *In Love with the Process*, host Mike Petchy dives deep into the story of ROMES, the Canadian brother duo Jacob and Nicholas who’ve built a 1.5 million-stream independent music career without a label. The conversation explores their DIY ethos, self-built sound rooted in 90s and early 2000s influences, and how they’ve leveraged authentic content creation—filming their basement experiments and sound design processes—on social media to land high-profile opportunities like scoring for *Call of Duty* and a short film. They discuss the emotional power of music, the authenticity gap in today’s content-driven music industry, and the growing backlash against AI-generated music. The episode also reflects on the broader crisis in artist compensation, the resurgence of physical media, and the importance of human connection in creative work. Petchy shares personal updates about his own feature film project, which is now in development with Scott Free, and emphasizes the show’s mission to celebrate the real, messy, and joyful process behind art. Key takeaways include: 1) Authenticity and joy in the creative process are more powerful than viral strategies; 2) Independent artists can thrive by documenting their real work, not performing for algorithms; 3) AI-generated music devalues both the creative process and listener experience; 4) Physical media and direct artist support (like Bandcamp) are vital for sustainable careers; 5) Live performance is a dynamic, evolving experience that cannot be replicated by pre-recorded content. The episode closes with a passionate call to support artists directly and to value the emotional resonance of music over convenience.
Authenticity in creative content is more powerful than chasing virality.
Documenting the real creative process—flaws and all—builds deeper audience connections.
AI-generated music undermines the emotional and artistic value of human creation.
Direct artist support (vinyl, Bandcamp) is essential for sustainable music careers.
Live performance is a unique, evolving experience that thrives on human unpredictability.
Introduction: The Power of Music and the Return to the Artist's Process
“Music seems to be the co-pilot. It seems to be the person riding in shotgun with you through your life.”
ROMES’ Origin Story: From Basement Experiments to Global Recognition
“We just set up a video camera and started filming the process and just posting the results online so other people can see it.”
The Crisis of Authenticity: Why AI and Algorithmic Content Are Failing
“It's like trading stocks. And then what they're doing is they're ultimately devaluing A, stream count, that's devalued.”
The Resurgence of Physical Media and Direct Artist Support
The conversation shifts to the growing backlash against streaming platforms. ROMES shares their surprise at high Bandcamp sales, and Mike reflects on the emotional disconnect of algorithmic playlists. They celebrate the return of vinyl, Blu-rays, and direct fan support as signs of a cultural reset.
Live Performance as a Living, Breathing Art Form
ROMES describe their electrifying live shows—where they treat rock performances like electronic dance sets, with seamless transitions and live remixing. They emphasize the unique energy exchange with audiences, the unpredictability of live music, and the joy of evolving a set night after night.
“We're not actually creating anything, right? They're going through the process of just hunting and that feels like a business strategy.”
“It's like trading stocks. And then what they're doing is they're ultimately devaluing A, stream count, that's devalued.”
“The average listener doesn't... I don't think they really care at the end of the day. If there's an absolute banger of a song that was fully created through AI, I don't know that the average person cares.”
Host
Guest
Mike Petchy
person
ROMES
other
Jacob
person
Nicholas
person
Call of Duty
other
Puget Systems
organization
Fujifilm
organization
TikTok
other
Jack Wall
person
Scott Free
organization
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