Cooling Inflammation, Tattoos & Tarot | Rosalee de la Forêt & Caitlin Cordell
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In this richly layered episode of the HerbRally podcast, Rosalie de la Forêt and tattoo artist/Caitlin Cordell engage in a deeply personal and educational conversation while Caitlin receives a new tattoo of bees on her hawthorn sleeve in Twist, Washington. The dialogue seamlessly weaves together herbal medicine, inflammation science, and spiritual artistry. Rosalie demystifies the crucial difference between acute and chronic inflammation—emphasizing that acute inflammation is a vital, life-sustaining healing response, while chronic inflammation underlies nearly all modern chronic diseases. She critiques the fear-based, elimination-heavy approach to healing and champions her course on cooling inflammation as a joyful, holistic journey rooted in personal discernment and plant wisdom. Highlighted herbs include hawthorn (a heart-nourishing, anti-inflammatory powerhouse), lemon balm (shown in a study to reduce oxidative stress in radiology staff), and the nuanced use of turmeric, which she cautions against oversimplification—especially the myth that black pepper is essential for its absorption. The conversation then shifts to Caitlin’s art, including her eight-year labor of love, the Unruly Beings Tarot Deck, a black-and-white illustrated work that blends plant and animal kinship with profound spiritual insight. The episode culminates in a live tarot reading using the deck, which delivers powerful messages about discernment, vulnerability, and emotional truth, reinforcing the episode’s central theme: healing is not just physical, but deeply relational and joyful. The hosts’ authentic connection and mutual reverence for nature, art, and community shine throughout.
Acute inflammation is essential for healing and should be respected, not feared.
Chronic inflammation is a root cause of most modern diseases and requires addressing lifestyle, diet, and emotional patterns.
Hawthorn is a powerful, multi-faceted herb for heart health and inflammation modulation, not just a 'heart herb'.
Lemon balm tea significantly reduced oxidative stress in a real-world study—simple, accessible, and effective.
Turmeric is not a magic bullet; its effectiveness depends on context, dosage, and individual constitution.
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Introduction & Tattoo Session Begins
The episode opens with a warm welcome to the Herbalist Hour, setting the scene in Twist, Washington. Rosalie introduces Caitlin Cordell, tattoo artist and creator of the Unruly Beings Tarot Deck, as they begin a live tattoo session. The conversation starts with Caitlin’s new bee tattoo on her hawthorn sleeve, immediately linking the theme of healing and nature to the physical act of tattooing.
Acute vs. Chronic Inflammation Explained
“You'd be dead if you didn't have acute inflammation because basically inflammation is the body's healing process.”
Herbs That Cool Inflammation: Hawthorn & Lemon Balm
“Every radiology staff person, anybody coming in contact with this type of work should be drinking lemon balm tea. Why not?”
The Art of Healing: Tarot, Tattoos & Plant Kinship
“I think the goal was to really help people connect to the plants and animals. And though I think the images do speak to that connection, also offering these four final lessons...”
Live Tarot Reading: Discernment & Vulnerability
“Our vulnerability is not a weakness, it is a gift to the world.”
“Our vulnerability is not a weakness, it is a gift to the world.”
“You'd be dead if you didn't have acute inflammation because basically inflammation is the body's healing process.”
“Every radiology staff person, anybody coming in contact with this type of work should be drinking lemon balm tea. Why not?”
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Guest
Rosalie de la Forêt
person
Caitlin Cordell
person
hawthorn
other
Unruly Beings Tarot Deck
product
lemon balm
other
HerbRally
organization
turmeric
other
Easton
person
black pepper
other
Xavier
person
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