Unscripted the AMCP Podcast: Fixed-Duration Therapy, NCCN Guidelines, and Managed Care

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This episode of Unscripted, the AMCP podcast, explores the transformative shift in chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL) treatment toward oral fixed-duration therapies, driven by updates to the 2026 NCCN guidelines. Corollos Hanna-Farndy, Director of Pharmacy at Minnesota Oncology and Assistant Professor at Mayo Clinic, discusses how combinations like venetoclax with BTK inhibitors (e.g., acalabrutinib, ibrutinib) or CD20 monoclonal antibodies (obinutuzumab, rituximab) are now preferred frontline options, offering patients the ability to stop treatment after about a year—marking a major departure from continuous BTK inhibitor therapy. The conversation highlights the growing role of minimal residual disease (MRD) testing in guiding treatment decisions, with MRD negativity linked to improved progression-free survival and the potential to discontinue therapy earlier. However, challenges remain in payer understanding, cost modeling, and access, especially as the Inflation Reduction Act impacts drug pricing for agents like ibrutinib and acalabrutinib. The discussion emphasizes shared decision-making between patients and providers, considering factors like age, comorbidities, and treatment burden, while also calling for value-based care partnerships and data collaboration across payers, providers, and pharma to navigate this evolving landscape. Key takeaways include: (1) Fixed-duration regimens are now standard in frontline CLL care, offering patients time off therapy and improved quality of life; (2) MRD testing is becoming increasingly important for personalizing treatment duration and improving outcomes; (3) Payers must evolve beyond short-term cost models to consider long-term savings from finite therapy; (4) The Inflation Reduction Act is reshaping formulary strategies, especially for Medicare, requiring reevaluation of step therapy and drug preferences; and (5) Shared decision-making and multidisciplinary collaboration are essential to optimize patient-centered care in CLL.

Key Takeaways
1

Fixed-duration oral regimens (e.g., venetoclax + BTKi + CD20) are now preferred frontline treatments for CLL, enabling patients to stop therapy after ~1 year.

2

MRD negativity is emerging as a key biomarker for guiding treatment discontinuation and predicting better progression-free survival.

3

Payers must adopt long-term cost models that account for total healthcare savings from finite therapy versus continuous BTK inhibitor use.

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The Inflation Reduction Act’s price negotiations are disrupting formulary strategies, especially for ibrutinib and acalabrutinib, requiring payer reevaluation.

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Shared decision-making between patients, providers, and payers is critical, considering patient fitness, treatment burden, and personal preferences.

Chapters
0:00
2 min

Introduction to Fixed-Duration CLL Therapy

The episode opens with an overview of the evolving landscape in CLL treatment, highlighting the shift toward oral fixed-duration therapies as recommended in the 2026 NCCN guidelines. The host introduces Corollos Hanna-Farndy as a leading expert in managed care pharmacy and oncology.

2:00
4 min

Evolution of CLL Treatment: From Chemo to Fixed Duration

We can treat CLL, let's say for a year and get patients off and they're doing really, really well. So it's something very exciting.

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6:00
5 min

The Role of MRD Testing in Treatment Decisions

The groups of patients who achieved MRD negativity with a BCL2 inhibitor actually had and trended to have better progression-free survival as well as response rates.

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11:00
5 min

Benefits and Trade-offs of Fixed vs. Continuous Therapy

We are making a significant impact for patients. Many patients with CLL at this point are not succumbing to their disease. They're succumbing to older age, comorbidities and maybe toxicity of treatment.

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16:00
4 min

Payer Perspectives and Value-Based Care Challenges

Let's start to dig at this data... try to model those out of continuous BTKI... just trying to see the impact on the payer lens as well as the total health care aspect.

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High-Impact Quotes
Let's start to dig at this data... try to model those out of continuous BTKI... just trying to see the impact on the payer lens as well as the total health care aspect.
Corollos Hanna-Farndy11:53
Viral: 90.0
We are making a significant impact for patients. Many patients with CLL at this point are not succumbing to their disease. They're succumbing to older age, comorbidities and maybe toxicity of treatment.
Corollos Hanna-Farndy9:34
Viral: 88.0
We can treat CLL, let's say for a year and get patients off and they're doing really, really well. So it's something very exciting.
Corollos Hanna-Farndy4:54
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Laura

Guest

Corollos Hanna-Farndy
Topics Discussed
Fixed-Duration Therapy in CLL95%Minimal Residual Disease (MRD) Testing90%NCCN Guidelines and Treatment Recommendations88%Payer Challenges and Value-Based Care85%Inflation Reduction Act Impact on Drug Pricing82%BTK Inhibitors and BCL2 Inhibitors in CLL80%Shared Decision-Making in Oncology78%Treatment Sequencing and Relapsed CLL75%
People & Brands

Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia

other

25xNeutral

Corollos Hanna-Farndy

person

15xPositive

Laura

person

12xPositive

NCCN Guidelines

organization

10xPositive

Venetoclax

product

8xPositive

Ibrutinib

product

7xMixed

Acalabrutinib

product

5xPositive

Obinutuzumab

product

4xPositive

Inflation Reduction Act

other

4xMixed

Zanabrutinib

product

3xPositive

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