INTERVIEW: Francesca Albanese on being sanctioned and impartiality
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Francesca Albanese, the UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories, speaks with raw honesty about being the first UN official ever sanctioned by the United States—placed on a list with Vladimir Putin and Nicolás Maduro—after she publicly accused Israel of genocide in Gaza. Despite the personal toll, including being cut off from her American daughter and facing relentless accusations of antisemitism, Albanese remains resolute. A federal judge recently blocked the sanctions, ruling they violated her free speech rights, a moment she describes as 'relieving' but not the end of the fight. In her new book, *When the World Sleeps*, she reveals how her work is rooted not in ideology but in international law and human dignity. She argues that impartiality doesn’t mean neutrality—it means rigorously applying the law, even when powerful states refuse to engage. Far from despair, Albanese sees a global awakening, especially among young people, who she believes can rebuild a more just world through solidarity, not isolation. Her message is clear: the fight for justice isn’t about choosing sides—it’s about choosing humanity.
The US sanctioned Francesca Albanese as the first UN official in history for speaking on human rights in Gaza, a move blocked by a federal judge for violating free speech.
Albanese defines impartiality as applying international law objectively—not as neutrality, but as rigorous fact-checking and verification, even when powerful states refuse to respond.
She rejects the weaponization of 'antisemitism' to silence criticism of Israel, arguing that equating criticism of state policy with hatred against Jewish people is a dangerous distortion.
Her book *When the World Sleeps* is a cathartic, human-centered narrative that brings to life the stories behind her 9,000-word reports, emphasizing the power of storytelling in justice work.
Albanese believes young people are the key to change, not through individual heroism but through collective solidarity and sustained moral courage.
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The Global Paradox of Recognition and Condemnation
“To be awarded some countries' highest honours, while leaders of other countries are calling for your resignation?”
Sanctions, Free Speech, and the First UN Official Sanctioned
“I feel relieved. And at the same time, I know that for me, for the way I am, this is not over.”
The Human Cost of Sanctions and the Silence of the Powerful
She reveals the chilling effect of the sanctions, particularly on her family, and laments the lack of outcry from scholars and legal experts in the US, despite the precedent it sets for free speech.
Writing a Book as Catharsis and Resistance
Albanese explains how writing *When the World Sleeps* was both a personal release and a political act—bringing human stories to life beyond dry legal reports and re-humanizing the victims of systemic violence.
Impartiality, Asymmetry, and the Myth of Neutrality
“Impartiality is looking at the facts brought before me objectively, studying them, verifying them, corroborating them, which is something I absolutely do.”
“Today, antisemitism is conceived by some as indisposition or criticism of the state of Israel, as if Israel for some reason, for its proclaimed religion, could”
“Impartiality is looking at the facts brought before me objectively, studying them, verifying them, corroborating them, which is something I absolutely do.”
“Together we will make it, I promise. Trust me, I am someone who holds our promises.”
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