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In this episode of AI GovCast, Brigadier General Simon Durant, Commanding General of the Marine Corps Warfighting Laboratory, discusses how the lab is leveraging lessons from recent conflicts—particularly Ukraine and the Middle East—to shape the future of Marine Corps operations. Focused on distributed maritime operations and decision advantage in contested environments, the lab uses advanced modeling, simulation, and wargaming to project future threats over the next 5 to 15 years. Key priorities include enhancing lethality, survivability, and mobility through concepts like Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations (EABO), with an emphasis on low-signature, resilient, and autonomous systems. The lab is developing a 100,000-square-foot Neller Center for Wargaming and Analysis to support physics-based virtual environments that simulate complex threat scenarios and test force structures, technologies, and doctrine. Critical investments are underway in edge computing, autonomous vessels, collaborative combat aircraft (like the MQ-58), and AI-enabled decision support to enable real-time, machine-speed cross-domain coordination and situational awareness in degraded or denied environments. The goal is to transition these innovations into formal programs of record while ensuring they are intuitive for Marines to operate and integrate seamlessly with joint and coalition forces. The episode underscores a strategic shift toward distributed, resilient, and autonomous operations that reduce risk to personnel while increasing operational reach and effectiveness. By prioritizing man-machine teaming, autonomous resupply, and robust command and control architectures, the Marine Corps aims to maintain dominance in the weapons engagement zone. The lab’s iterative, threat-informed approach—combining virtual experimentation with real-world testing—ensures that emerging capabilities are not only technologically advanced but also operationally viable. The successful transition of the XQ-58 Valkyrie to the MQ-58 as a program of record exemplifies this path from concept to fielding. Overall, the conversation reveals a forward-leaning, adaptive military innovation ecosystem focused on staying ahead of evolving threats through rapid prototyping, joint integration, and human-centered design.
Leverage real-world conflict lessons (e.g., Ukraine) to inform future warfighting concepts and threat modeling.
Invest in autonomous, low-observable systems (e.g., autonomous low-profile vessels, MQ-58) to reduce risk to personnel while enhancing logistics and resupply in contested zones.
Prioritize edge computing and AI to enable real-time, machine-speed decision-making and cross-domain coordination.
Develop resilient, decentralized command and control architectures to operate effectively in degraded or denied environments.
Use virtual wargaming and simulation at scale to identify capability gaps and refine force structure before fielding new technologies.
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Introduction to the Marine Corps Warfighting Lab and Future Focus
Ross John Fortuna introduces the Marine Corps Warfighting Laboratory and its mission to anticipate future threats and develop next-generation concepts and capabilities. Brigadier General Simon Durant joins to discuss how the lab uses emerging conflict data to shape the future of Marine operations.
Learning from Ukraine and Other Conflicts
“We're trying to take lessons that we can learn from Ukraine, other conflicts in the Middle East and elsewhere, and see how that applies with being threat-informed and concept-based for not only what we need to do today, but in the next 5 to 10 to 15 years.”
Virtual Wargaming and the Neller Center for Wargaming
“We have a 100,000 square foot facility here at Quantico that we're working on all of the software and the IT infrastructure to allow us to take what we would see as a threat in the next decade, create that threat in the virtual environment...”
Autonomy, Edge Computing, and the Future of Man-Machine Teaming
“We would like to do a little bit more with our littoral mobility. And so if you can imagine units that are inside of weapons engagement zone, we're looking for vessels and vehicles that we would deem risk worthy...”
“We're making investments in autonomy. man done, man teaming. It's not necessarily getting robots to replace Marines. It's getting robots to enable Marines.”
“It's not necessarily getting robots to replace Marines. It's getting robots to enable Marines.”
“We're making investments in autonomy. man done, man teaming. It's not necessarily getting robots to replace Marines. It's getting robots to enable Marines.”
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Brigadier General Simon Durant
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Marine Corps Warfighting Laboratory
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Weapons Engagement Zone
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Survivability
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Autonomous Low Profile Vessel
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MQ-58 Valkyrie
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Modeling and Simulation
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Ukraine
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Neller Center for Wargaming and Analysis
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Littoral Mobility
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