1053. Insights: Agentic payments: Revolution or just better orchestration?

Fintech Insider Podcast by 11:FS56mApril 9, 2026

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In this episode of Fintech Insider Insights, host Benjamin Ensor explores the emerging concept of agentic payments—where AI agents, rather than humans, make payment decisions on behalf of users. The discussion, featuring Rory O'Neill of Checkout.com, investor Sahar Atari-Poor, and Sam Bobojev of Fintech Wrap Up, dissects the transformative potential and profound challenges of shifting from human-initiated to agent-driven transactions. Key themes include the reimagining of trust, identity, and liability in a world where agents negotiate, purchase, and manage payments autonomously. The panel highlights that while the underlying payment rails remain largely unchanged, the decision layer is fundamentally disrupted, requiring new protocols for agent authentication (Know Your Agent), permission boundaries, and audit trails. Businesses may benefit from reduced branding dependency, as product metadata and API-friendly descriptions become more critical than traditional marketing. However, the biggest hurdles remain around consumer trust, risk allocation, and the lack of a cohesive liability framework. The conversation underscores that agentic commerce is not just about automation but a systemic redesign of digital commerce, with value shifting from checkout interfaces to the intelligence layer that governs agent behavior. The episode concludes with a consensus that trust and liability are the two pillars that must be addressed for agentic payments to become mainstream. Sam advocates for a central regulatory or institutional body to assume liability, while Rory emphasizes building consumer trust through reliability and transparency. Sahar calls for a mindset shift—treating AI agents like limited liability entities with risk tolerance agreements, similar to asset management. The panel agrees that adoption will begin with low-risk, repeat purchases and gradually expand as infrastructure matures. Ultimately, the future of payments lies not in new rails but in rethinking the entire ecosystem around intent, accountability, and human-AI collaboration.

Key Takeaways
1

Agentic payments shift decision-making from humans to AI agents, requiring a fundamental redesign of trust, identity, and liability models.

2

The biggest barrier to adoption is not technology but trust and liability—consumers are wary of agents making purchases without full control.

3

Branding and traditional marketing are becoming less important; product metadata and API-friendly descriptions are now critical for agent discovery.

4

Payment service providers must evolve into orchestration platforms that manage multiple protocols, identity layers, and agent interactions.

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A central liability framework or regulatory body may be needed to assign responsibility across the agent ecosystem, especially as mistakes occur.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

The Problem with Fragmented Financial Truth

Introduces the core challenge of modern payments: multiple systems with conflicting records, making reconciliation manual and error-prone. Positions Formance as a solution with a unified ledger.

2:00
5 min

Defining Agentic Payments: From Human to Agent

Agentic payments are not a new way to move money. They are this shift from user-initiated transaction to basically system-initiated decision-based or predefined intent.

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7:00
8 min

The Trust and Identity Challenge

It's not the human anymore or the physical buyer making the transaction, it's an agent. So as Sam said, it's delegated authority. So instead of know the customer, it's know the agent.

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15:00
10 min

B2B vs. B2C: Where Will Adoption Begin?

I really think that this process of the translation of the intent to what actually needs to be done for humans, for consumers is a lot more challenging and nuanced.

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25:00
15 min

The Liability Crisis: Who Is Responsible?

The current framework again assumes, as you said, explicit intent. We believe that there is a single responsible actor. But agent payments break this all three.

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High-Impact Quotes
I think we need one organization or body that would control liability and said like okay I will take this risk and you guys can rely on me and At that point, then everyone will start trusting more into AGT commerce and payments.
Sam Bobojev50:12
Viral: 90.0
The current framework again assumes, as you said, explicit intent. We believe that there is a single responsible actor. But agent payments break this all three.
Sam Bobojev23:58
Viral: 88.0
We have zero tolerance for an agent to make a mistake so I really think that it's a little bit of shift in thinking as we do in asset management all the time, having an agreement signed by a human that I have X percent tolerance for loss.
Sahar Atari-Poor52:01
Viral: 86.0
Speakers

Host

Benjamin Ensor

Guests

Rory O'NeillSahar Atari-PoorSam Bobojev
Topics Discussed
agentic payments95%liability framework92%trust and identity90%agent decision-making88%consumer behavior and trust87%b2b vs b2c adoption85%marketing and branding shift83%payment infrastructure80%
People & Brands

Rory O'Neill

person

15xPositive

Sam Bobojev

person

14xPositive

Sahar Atari-Poor

person

12xPositive

Checkout.com

organization

10xPositive

Benjamin Ensor

person

8xNeutral

Mastercard

organization

3xPositive

OpenAI

organization

3xNeutral

Visa

organization

2xPositive

Google

organization

2xNeutral

Formance

organization

2xPositive

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