“There’s always a bull market somewhere in small caps” - Tobias Bucks

Equity Mates Investing Podcast49mApril 6, 2026

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In this episode of Equity Mates Investing Podcast, host Bryce is joined by returning guest Tobias Bucks, Portfolio Manager for the Global Small Caps Fund at Ausbill Investment Management. Tobias shares his evolving investment philosophy over the past five years, highlighting a shift from US-centric growth investing to a renewed focus on global small caps, particularly in Japan, Europe, and the electrification of infrastructure. He emphasizes the importance of a 'value bias' in growth investing, warning against the psychological biases that lead investors to overpay for high-growth stocks. Drawing on behavioral studies from MIT and Stanford, Tobias illustrates how perceived value affects performance and decision-making. He discusses the current state of the small cap market, identifying enduring bull markets in electric grid infrastructure, defense, AI data centers, and onshoring trends, despite geopolitical risks like the conflict in Iran. Tobias also reveals his stock picks—Mueller Industries and NKT—both niche leaders in industrial and energy infrastructure with strong management, undervaluation, and exposure to long-term structural trends. He stresses the importance of active management, disciplined selling, and maintaining a journal to improve investment judgment over time.

Key Takeaways
1

Always look for high-quality, niche leaders in small caps with strong management and undervaluation, not just high growth.

2

Adopt a 'value bias' in growth investing—focus on attractive entry prices, as high multiples are unsustainable in rising interest rate environments.

3

The electric grid, defense, and AI infrastructure are key structural themes driving long-term small cap opportunities.

4

Be disciplined about selling: don’t wait for a top; sell when valuation becomes stretched, even if the business is strong.

5

Keep a detailed investment journal to track emotions, reasoning, and decisions—this is critical for long-term improvement.

Chapters
0:00
2 min

Introduction and Sponsorship

The episode opens with standard disclaimers and sponsor announcements for Viola Private Wealth and Vanta, highlighting their services in portfolio management and automated compliance.

2:00
3 min

Tobias Bucks Returns: A Five-Year Evolution

We had a lot of focus on the US back then... I think going forward we have seen some changes and there's good opportunity to invest in Japan and in Europe.

Highlight
5:00
5 min

The Psychology of Value: Bias in Growth Investing

We ascribe poor value to something that we think is cheap. And we justify value or usefulness to something that we think is expensive.

Highlight
10:00
5 min

Interest Rates, Duration, and Valuation Sensitivity

If a stock's trading on over 25 times earnings for a 1% increase in the discount rate, it needs almost over a 15% increase in earnings to keep the same fair value.

Highlight
15:00
5 min

Current Small Cap Landscape: War, Inflation, and Opportunity

There is always a bull market somewhere. I think a lot of bull markets have ended. But there's some areas that have got some themes that are still going well.

Highlight
High-Impact Quotes
Keep a journal... write down your feelings, write down your workings, write down your calculations.
Tobias Bucks49:36
Viral: 92.0
We ascribe poor value to something that we think is cheap. And we justify value or usefulness to something that we think is expensive.
Tobias Bucks6:49
Viral: 90.0
If a stock's trading on over 25 times earnings for a 1% increase in the discount rate, it needs almost over a 15% increase in earnings to keep the same fair value.
Tobias Bucks15:39
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Host

Bryce

Guest

Tobias Bucks
Topics Discussed
Global Small Caps95%Electric Grid and Infrastructure Build-Out92%Investment Psychology and Bias90%AI Infrastructure and Capex Cycles88%Value Investing in Growth Context85%Investment Process and Due Diligence82%Active vs Passive Management80%Geopolitical Risk and Market Impact75%
People & Brands

Tobias Bucks

person

120xPositive

Ausbill Investment Management

organization

35xPositive

Mueller Industries

organization

28xPositive

NKT

organization

22xPositive

US

place

20xNeutral

Europe

place

15xPositive

Iran

place

12xNegative

Japan

place

8xPositive

China

place

7xPositive

Viola Private Wealth

organization

5xPositive

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