Thoughts on Western Draw Systems | Episode 162
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In this episode of Elk Talk, Randy Newberg and Corey Jacobson dive deep into the complexities of Western elk draw systems, focusing on Colorado and Montana while touching on broader trends across the West. They unpack the upcoming 2028 overhaul in Colorado’s preference point system, where half of the tags will shift to a random pool, drastically inflating the point requirements needed to draw a tag—potentially doubling or tripling current thresholds. The hosts warn that this change will disproportionately impact long-time non-resident hunters who’ve accumulated points over decades, now facing devaluation of their investment. They contrast this with Montana’s convoluted draw process, where applicants must first secure a general license before qualifying for limited entry, often leading to financial risk and frustration. The conversation shifts to access challenges, highlighting how private land ownership, population growth, and habitat fragmentation are concentrating elk and hunters on public land, creating overcrowding and diminishing hunting success. The hosts emphasize the critical role of organizations like the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation in funding habitat, research, and access projects, urging hunters to support them despite occasional disagreements. They also reflect on personal hunting philosophies, including burning points early to enjoy hunts sooner, and share anecdotes about unexpected tag draws in Idaho’s second and third draws due to unpurchased tags. The episode closes with a candid discussion about YouTube and Facebook algorithmic suppression of hunting content, particularly around rifles and game processing, raising concerns about the future of outdoor storytelling on social media platforms.
Colorado’s 2028 draw system change will halve the number of preference point tags, likely doubling the points needed to draw a tag and devaluing long-term point accumulation.
Montana’s draw system requires securing a general license before qualifying for limited entry, creating a high-stakes, high-cost process with limited refunds.
Non-resident hunters are increasingly bearing the brunt of state policy changes due to population growth and resident prioritization in state-based wildlife systems.
Access to elk hunting is deteriorating due to private land consolidation, forcing hunters into crowded public areas and pushing elk into private lands where they cause damage.
The Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation’s work—habitat restoration, research, and access projects—has outsized impact; membership is a critical investment in the future of elk hunting.
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Colorado Deadline Reminder & Podcast Intro
The hosts open with a reminder to submit Colorado elk applications by April 7th, 8 p.m. Mountain Time, and introduce the podcast's mission of sharing honest, unfiltered elk hunting knowledge.
Montana Draw System Confusion & Complexity
“You end up with a football bat, a soup sandwich, you know? It's like it is messed up.”
Colorado’s Preference Point System & 2028 Changes
“So literally these preference points... you're going to need double what you need right now to draw the same tag in the next five years probably.”
The Impact of Population Growth on Hunting Access
The discussion shifts to how population growth in states like Colorado is forcing changes to draw systems and reducing access, with elk and hunters increasingly concentrated on public lands.
The Role of the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation
“I can't think of a place where an elk hunter could spend 50 bucks that's going to do more for the future of their elk hunting than the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation.”
“So literally these preference points... you're going to need double what you need right now to draw the same tag in the next five years probably.”
“I can't think of a place where an elk hunter could spend 50 bucks that's going to do more for the future of their elk hunting than the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation.”
“You end up with a football bat, a soup sandwich, you know? It's like it is messed up.”
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Corey Jacobson
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Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation
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Colorado
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Montana
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Idaho
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YouTube
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Wyoming
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