Driven Radio Show #349: Andy Reid and John Saccameno
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In this lively episode of the Driven Radio Show, hosts Brett Hatfield and Mark Groves welcome back longtime guests Andy Reid and John Sacamino for a spirited conversation filled with automotive anecdotes, concours insights, and candid reflections on the evolving collector car market. The duo shares their experiences at major events like Pebble Beach and Amelia Island Concours, highlighting the Chrysler Superdart 400’s successful debut at Pebble and the thrill of winning preservation class at Amelia. They discuss the changing dynamics of car collecting, noting a shift from traditional hoarding to younger collectors who lease or rotate vehicles, driven by convenience and lifestyle rather than long-term ownership. The hosts also recount humorous and near-disastrous moments, including a woman running over a cone during an F1 transporter setup and a reckless pickup truck nearly colliding with a $30 million car convoy at Pebble Beach. Throughout, the banter between Andy and John remains sharp and affectionate, underscoring their deep friendship and shared passion for classic cars. Key takeaways include the importance of proper car presentation at concours events, the growing appeal of modern classics among younger collectors, and the reality that many older cars require significant maintenance. The hosts emphasize that while classic cars offer charm and history, practicality and reliability—especially in cars like the Porsche 911—remain central to long-term enjoyment. They also reflect on the emotional highs of car shows, from driving on the famed Dawn Patrol at Pebble Beach to accepting trophies with fellow enthusiasts. The episode closes with a reminder of the enduring joy of the car hobby, even as its culture evolves.
Presenting a car at concours requires meticulous preparation and attention to detail—how you show it matters as much as what it is.
Younger collectors are shifting toward leasing or rotating vehicles rather than hoarding, valuing experience over ownership.
The Porsche 911’s enduring popularity stems from its consistent, reliable, and driver-friendly design across decades.
Modern classics like the 360 Scuderia and Carrera GT are commanding record prices, but market speculation may lead to future corrections.
Many classic cars, especially from the 50s–70s, are becoming less practical for daily driving due to maintenance demands and poor ride quality.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Welcome Back & Thunderbird Updates
Hosts Brett and Mark kick off the episode with a lighthearted update on Mark’s Thunderbird, including issues with the floor switch and headlights, and a delayed throttle linkage from Amazon. They tease upcoming plans for McPherson and rib each other about car maintenance.
Road King & Road Glide Come Home
The hosts share updates on their motorcycles: Road King is back and running, while Road Glide received a new set of bars and is nearing completion. Rick Hunter’s bags are on the way, and the Heritage may already be sold.
Andy & John Return: The Dynamic Duo
“You know, jetting around the way we do, it's hard to find us in Villa Este, you know, Amelia Island. It's hard to get us both pinned down in one spot.”
Pebble Beach & Amelia Island Concours Highlights
“We drove up, got the trophy, gave us the trophy. Owner was in the passenger seat. John was in the backseat. People were thrilled. Nice. That was a blast.”
The Changing Face of Car Collecting
“I'm not saying anything. But indeed, I think there's a lot to that. I think there's a lot to that. I think there's a certain amount of charm that's going out of the, you know, some of the 50s, 60s, 70s stuff.”
“She runs over the cone. So there's like 30 people videotaping this. You can look this up on YouTube. It's great.”
“Driving on the drone patrol is the single most extraordinary thing I have ever done in the car hobby. It was pretty cool. Way cool.”
“We drove up, got the trophy, gave us the trophy. Owner was in the passenger seat. John was in the backseat. People were thrilled. Nice. That was a blast.”
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John Sacamino
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Andy Reid
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Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance
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Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance
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Chrysler Superdart 400
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Porsche 911
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Sport & Specialty
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Brett Hatfield
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ClassicCars.com
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Mark Groves
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